Thank you Gary - excellent. I'd not checked the pieces against the 1648
work (quite ridiculously I assumed they wouldn't duplicate!).
I took it that since no Opera number was given on this work that it may
have been the first.... But I bow to your research - and sorry to
interrupt your meetings (I know the feeling........).
Martyn
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From: Gary Boye <[email protected]>
To: Martyn Hodgson <[email protected]>; Monica Hall
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Martyn,
This edition is after Parte Terza, which has been stamped out in this
edition, so I think the date is much later--I'm going with c1660 at
this point, but more on that later:
"This book is closely related to [1]Pesori c1648, repeating from the
same plates the pieces on 10 of its folios. The intermixing of movable
type and engraving proved troublesome in binding this work--as in other
works by the same composer--and surviving exemplars are often partially
unbound and scrambled. A date of c1660 is purely conjectural; it is
surely later than 1648 and before 1675, but no definite dates are found
in the text." (my opening paragraph in the new page)
I've got 3 meetings and a mid-term to give today, but perhaps later in
the week I can get more of the page finished. There is also a very
similar edition in F-Pn that Francois-Pierre Goy and I have been
comparing.
Gary
Dr. Gary R. Boye
Professor and Music Librarian
Appalachian State University
On 3/4/2015 5:00 AM, Martyn Hodgson wrote:
I'm sure you're right Monica: many pieces may well need a bit of
'revision' to reach what Pesori was perhaps really trying to put across
in his Toccate.
Also interesting in the Pesori are the homilies, dedications, responses
and the like and also the list of subscribers - I haven't spotted any
other guitarists or even lutenists amongst them...
Regarding the date: I have c. 1648 for his Opera Seconda (Lo Scrigno
Armonico) so would c. 1645 be about right for this (presumably first)
work?
Martyn
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From: Monica Hall [2]<[email protected]>
To: Gary R. Boye [3]<[email protected]>
Cc: Lutelist [4]<[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, 4 March 2015, 8:43
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Two alfabeto prints (Pesaro Abbatessa) New UR
Research Publications for dates: 01/21/2015 - 01/22/2015
The problem with some of these books seems to be that their authors
were not
sufficently musically literate to notate their music coherantly
particularly
as regards rhythm and metre.
it's actually Pesori not Pesaro whilst we are at it isn't it.
Monica
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> The relationship of this book to other Pesaro tablatures is complex;
I
> hope to publish a web page with information on them soon. I visited
> Rochester in November 2013 and moved these two tablatures and a few
other
> things up in the queue; it took them awhile but they came up in
January.
>
> As for quality of music, well, it's Pesaro. I keep waiting for him to
find
> his voice and be more than historically interesting, but in vain . .
. But
> I wouldn't say it is unplayable, on the whole, just "clunky" (to use
a
> non-musicological term).
>
> Gary
>
> --
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> Erneston Music Library
> Appalachian State University
>
>
> On 3/3/2015 5:42 PM, WALSH STUART wrote:
>> Very interesting.
>>
>> The second one has lots of 'mixed tab' too. I don't know about the
>> alfabeto pieces but the mixed tab pieces look like another
publication by
>> Pesaro: on the face of it, utterly unplayable gibberish. Yet nicely
>> printed with drawings etc. Very strange in that it's hard to see
what
>> players of the time could have done with it.
>>
>>
>> Stuart
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>>> Publication Name: Toccate di Chitarriglia Oue con cinque
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