Thanks for your kind words, Tomo.
RA
> Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 17:39:27 +0900
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> Subject: [LUTE] Re: Disdiatessaron
>
> Sorry for my late reply, and I would like to thank again Ron, Stathis
for
> the correction,
> and Ralf for giving me the answer for detail!
> (I am deeply thankful to Ron for your Mignarda editions
> which always help me to learn lute pieces that originally were songs
and
> their lyrics & translation!!)
>
>
> > Medieval/renaissance/baroque theory organizes pitches into two
systems,
> > the "claves" and the "voces" system. One, the "claves"-system is
quasi a
> > context-free system - a "G" is just a "G" - while the other is
gives
> > context - a "fa" is a note that has a hlf-step below, a minor third
> > below, a major third above etc. By combining these two systems you
get a
> > lot of information just by the pitch name ("A la mi re" etc.).
>
> Is the "Voce" system is what Dowland called "Voyces" in Miclogos ?
>
>
http://luna.folger.edu/luna/servlet/detail/FOLGERCM1~6~6~26728~101966:-
Musice-actiue-micrologus--English-#
>
> From left to light, the images of pipes (?) represent Voyces:
> Hard hexachord (G-hexachord), Natural hexachord(C-hexachord), Soft
> hexachord(F-hexachord) ...?
>
>
> > I wasn't talking about an interval ;-)
> > 1 g so fa ut
>
> I think this should be:
>
> 1 g sol re ut ???
>
> > 2 a la mi re
> > 3 b fa
> > 4 b mi
> > 5 c sol fa ut
> > 6 d fa sol re
> >
> > This happens because in that part two hexachords overlap (that a
fifth
> > above the c-Hexachord and that a fifth below it) and those two
> > hexachords have one note not in common.
>
> As in the Micrologos,
> "a.b.c.d.e.f.g for b fa a(R)mi. is not one Key onely, but two"
> whereas "Capitall eight" (Grave and basse keyes) have one B (
a(R))...
> If my understanding is correct.....
>
>
> > you won't have b-fa and b-mi at once, since you (normally only stay
in
> > two hexachords, so either F/C or C/G. But in this diagram Dowland
shows
> > the whole Gamut and hence lists all three.
>
> So could the "disdiatessaron" mean that there are TWO types of forth
between
> Smale meane and Great meane:
> mi-fa-sol-la of Soft hexachord
> and re-mi-fa-sol of Hard hexachord??
> or simple mistake?
>
> > I think that's one of the most important skills to have if you're
doing
> > renaissance/baroque music.
>
> Thank you for helping me with understand that complicated structure!
:-D !!
>
> Tomoko
>
>
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