Good comments, Mimmo. I must say I am impressed with the Loaded Nylgut strings, 
and will definitely use them on from 6th to 13th courses. Congratulations on 
creating a very good string. 

Rob



> On 9 Jan 2017, at 07:24, Mimmo Peruffo <mperu...@aquilacorde.com> wrote:
> 
> Well,  a sustain of 20 seconds or so on is very impossible even with modern 
> wound strings, whose density is 5 times plain gut:  i remember that the 
> modern wound strings has the best gain over all the bass strings types. 
> Mersenne wrote that he is mentioning the last bass string; i.e. the ticker.
> In the Harmonie Universelle there are a lot of mistakes. One concerning gut: 
> the Mersenne's calculation give a breacking stress of 19 Kg/ mm2 while it 
> should be of 34 Kg/mm2 almost. And so on with metal wire calculations, the 
> equal tension on harps and spinette etc etc.  One thing is to consider  20 
> second of sound and another thing is that the vibration of the string lasted 
> till 20 seconds.  I am thinking that it is the second case; i.e. the 
> vibration of the string whas so long, not the sound.  So one can hear the 
> sound in the first seconds and then one see the vibration of the string till 
> its stop.
> I think that this is the only interpretetation  that can work.
> In any case, generally speacking, this mean that these basses were very very 
> efficients. The elasticity only is not in condition the explain this 
> behaviour.
> Mimmo
> 
> 
> -----Messaggio originale----- From: Jean-Marie Poirier
> Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 9:46 PM
> To: Christopher Wilke ; Rob MacKillop ; 'Lute List'
> Subject: [LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain
> 
> The exact quotation from Mersenne is :
> "...le son des grosses chordes de Luth est apperceu de l'oreille durant la 
> sixiesme partie, ou le tiers d'une minute, c'est à dire pendant que l'artère 
> du poux d'un homme sain, & sans emotion bat dix, ou vingt fois..."
> which can be roughly translated by : the sound of the big strings of a Lute 
> is perceived by the ear during the sixth part, or a third of a minute, that 
> is to say as long as the pulse of a healthy man, without emotion, beats ten, 
> or twenty times..."
> 
> Amicalement,
> 
> Jean-Marie
> 
> 
> 
> --------------
> 
>>  Hi Rob,
>> 
>>  What exactly is the quote in Mersenne about the 20 second sustain?
>>  Although my French is very poor, I've attempted to find it to no avail.
>> 
>>  Chris
>>  [1]Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
>> 
>>  On Sunday, January 8, 2017, 10:59 AM, Rob MacKillop
>>  <robmackil...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>    Here's a very short video comparing the sustain time of a new Aquila
>>    Loaded Nylgut string and a Savarez copper-wound nylon-silk core bass
>>    string.
>>    [1][2]https://youtu.be/8FVJMk_Xjv0
>>    My ears hear better than the microphone, and the useable sustain on
>>  the
>>    Aquila string is 4 seconds, while the Savarez is a long 8 seconds.
>>    With the Savarez, you will be required to stop pretty much every note
>>    you play in the bass. With the Aquila, less so.
>>    The Aquila do remind me of gut basses. I used to have an 11c
>>  completely
>>    strung in gut, and these loaded nylgut strings are very, very close.
>>    On the other hand...Mersenne says his basses sustain for almost 20
>>    seconds!!!
>>    I'll stick with the Aquila.
>>    Rob
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>> 
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>>  2. https://youtu.be/8FVJMk_Xjv0
>>  3. https://youtu.be/8FVJMk_Xjv0
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