Good comments, Mimmo. I must say I am impressed with the Loaded Nylgut strings, and will definitely use them on from 6th to 13th courses. Congratulations on creating a very good string.
Rob > On 9 Jan 2017, at 07:24, Mimmo Peruffo <mperu...@aquilacorde.com> wrote: > > Well, a sustain of 20 seconds or so on is very impossible even with modern > wound strings, whose density is 5 times plain gut: i remember that the > modern wound strings has the best gain over all the bass strings types. > Mersenne wrote that he is mentioning the last bass string; i.e. the ticker. > In the Harmonie Universelle there are a lot of mistakes. One concerning gut: > the Mersenne's calculation give a breacking stress of 19 Kg/ mm2 while it > should be of 34 Kg/mm2 almost. And so on with metal wire calculations, the > equal tension on harps and spinette etc etc. One thing is to consider 20 > second of sound and another thing is that the vibration of the string lasted > till 20 seconds. I am thinking that it is the second case; i.e. the > vibration of the string whas so long, not the sound. So one can hear the > sound in the first seconds and then one see the vibration of the string till > its stop. > I think that this is the only interpretetation that can work. > In any case, generally speacking, this mean that these basses were very very > efficients. The elasticity only is not in condition the explain this > behaviour. > Mimmo > > > -----Messaggio originale----- From: Jean-Marie Poirier > Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 9:46 PM > To: Christopher Wilke ; Rob MacKillop ; 'Lute List' > Subject: [LUTE] Re: Aquila Loaded Nylgut sustain > > The exact quotation from Mersenne is : > "...le son des grosses chordes de Luth est apperceu de l'oreille durant la > sixiesme partie, ou le tiers d'une minute, c'est à dire pendant que l'artère > du poux d'un homme sain, & sans emotion bat dix, ou vingt fois..." > which can be roughly translated by : the sound of the big strings of a Lute > is perceived by the ear during the sixth part, or a third of a minute, that > is to say as long as the pulse of a healthy man, without emotion, beats ten, > or twenty times..." > > Amicalement, > > Jean-Marie > > > > -------------- > >> Hi Rob, >> >> What exactly is the quote in Mersenne about the 20 second sustain? >> Although my French is very poor, I've attempted to find it to no avail. >> >> Chris >> [1]Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone >> >> On Sunday, January 8, 2017, 10:59 AM, Rob MacKillop >> <robmackil...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Here's a very short video comparing the sustain time of a new Aquila >> Loaded Nylgut string and a Savarez copper-wound nylon-silk core bass >> string. >> [1][2]https://youtu.be/8FVJMk_Xjv0 >> My ears hear better than the microphone, and the useable sustain on >> the >> Aquila string is 4 seconds, while the Savarez is a long 8 seconds. >> With the Savarez, you will be required to stop pretty much every note >> you play in the bass. With the Aquila, less so. >> The Aquila do remind me of gut basses. I used to have an 11c >> completely >> strung in gut, and these loaded nylgut strings are very, very close. >> On the other hand...Mersenne says his basses sustain for almost 20 >> seconds!!! >> I'll stick with the Aquila. >> Rob >> -- >> References >> 1. [3]https://youtu.be/8FVJMk_Xjv0 >> To get on or off this list see list information at >> [4]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html >> >> -- >> >> References >> >> 1. https://yho.com/footer0 >> 2. https://youtu.be/8FVJMk_Xjv0 >> 3. https://youtu.be/8FVJMk_Xjv0 >> 4. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html >