>Perhaps we should hire President Trump to build a wall for us.

   I seem to recall some guy named Hadrian attempted the barrier 
solution
   a few years back.  
>>> Parts of it are still there and Nicola Sturgeon (if you have heard 
about her) is trying to get it repaired this time to keep the English 
out of Scotland rather than the other way around. 

But I for one would donate money if you would hire
   Donald Trump to build a wall, just as long as you keep him busy and
   keep him over there.
   RA

>>>I don't think even he could achieve that - and I don't think he 
would get Africa to pay for it either. He seems to have gone a bit 
quiet on that one but perhaps that's just the calm before the storm.  
As Pope Francis (bless him) said - we should be building bridges, not 
walls.

Monica
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   From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu <lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu> on 
behalf
   of mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk <mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk>
   Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 1:59 PM
   To: howardpos...@ca.rr.com
   Cc: LutList
   Subject: [LUTE] Re: Cumb=C3=A9es?=

   ----Original Message----
   From: howardpos...@ca.rr.com
   Date: 28/05/2017 0:08
   To: "Lute List"<lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
   Subj: [LUTE] Re: Cumb=C3=A9es?=
   > On May 27, 2017, at 6:37 AM, mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk wrote:
   >
   >  there were a lot of Africans in Spain during
   > the 16th and 18th centuries. North African is just a short 
distance
   > across the Mediterranean from Spain.
   Tangier is, but it’s 3,300 kilometers from Gibraltar to Dakar and 
4,500
   kilometers to Sierra Leone.  Is the cumbee a Moorish dance?
    - That is a good question.  Spain held territories in North Africa 
and
   Spain and Portugal navigated down the west coast of Africa long 
before
   they reached the New World. Vasco da Gama sailed to India round the
   southern tip of Africa etc. at the same time that Columbus 
discovered
   the West Indies. So the idea that any African dances must have come
   from Mexico doesn't really hold water. I think the received wisdom 
is
   that the cumbees, paracumbe and guinea and a few others all came 
from
   Guinea or that part of Africa rather than from north of the Sahara.
   Distance is not really a factor - it was Aristotle I believe - 
correct
   me if I am wrong - who said "We Greeks live like frogs around a 
pond".
   The Mediterranean is not much of a barrier - refugees are flooding 
from
   Africa into Europe in boatloads by that route today. Perhaps we 
should
   hire President Trump to build a wall for us. A suspension bridge 
might
   be a better idea - fewer people would drown. The Roman Empire
   encompassed a lot of North Africa and Spain was invaded by people 
from
   North Africa long before the Moors arrived and some of them must 
have
   been ethnically African.
    - So take your pick.
   Monica

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