The Manchus took advantage of an unexpected flaw in the Great Wall,
called a door. It opened from the Chinese side. Fat chance that the
Mexicans will make the same mistake.
On 05/28/2017 01:45 PM, Dan Winheld wrote:
"I'm gonna build a wall! The Picts are gonna pay for it! Make Albion
great again!" -Hadrian Trumpus.
Didn't work too well for the Chinese either. As far as I know, the
Mongols & the Manchus still haven't even coughed up a single yuan.
On 5/28/2017 12:00 PM, Ron Andrico wrote:
>Perhaps we should hire President Trump to build a wall for us.
I seem to recall some guy named Hadrian attempted the barrier solution
a few years back. But I for one would donate money if you would hire
Donald Trump to build a wall, just as long as you keep him busy and
keep him over there.
RA
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Subj: [LUTE] Re: Cumbées? > On May 27, 2017, at 6:37 AM,
[8]mjlhall@tiscal
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> there were a lot of Africans in Spain during
> the 16th and 18th centuries. North African is just a short distance
> across the Mediterranean from Spain.
Tangier is, but it's 3,300 kilometers from Gibraltar to Dakar and 4,500
kilometers to Sierra Leone. Is the cumbee a Moorish dance?
- That is a good question. Spain held territories in North Africa and
Spain and Portugal navigated down the west coast of Africa long before
they reached the New World. Vasco da Gama sailed to India round the
southern tip of Africa etc. at the same time that Columbus discovered
the West Indies. So the idea that any African dances must have come
from Mexico doesn't really hold water. I think the received wisdom is
that the cumbees, paracumbe and guinea and a few others all came from
Guinea or that part of Africa rather than from north of the Sahara.
Distance is not really a factor - it was Aristotle I believe - correct
me if I am wrong - who said "We Greeks live like frogs around a pond".
The Mediterranean is not much of a barrier - refugees are flooding from
Africa into Europe in boatloads by that route today. Perhaps we should
hire President Trump to build a wall for us. A suspension bridge might
be a better idea - fewer people would drown. The Roman Empire
encompassed a lot of North Africa and Spain was invaded by people from
North Africa long before the Moors arrived and some of them must have
been ethnically African.
- So take your pick.
Monica
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