May be difficult to sort out what is old-fashioned in any given moment when it 
is 'kept alive' by being part of a people's folklore ... Nursery Rhymes:
    
    Sing a song of sixpence,
    A pocket full of rye.
    Four and twenty blackbirds,
    Baked in a pie.

    When the pie was opened
    The birds began to sing;
    Wasn't that a dainty dish,
    To set before the king. 

(a.s.o.)

Best

Joachim

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Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Four and Twenty Fiddlers: The Violin at the English Court, 
1540-1690
Datum: 2018-01-28T11:32:11+0100
Von: "Rainer" <[email protected]>
An: "Lute net" <[email protected]>

I forgot to mention that the old-fashioned way was still used by Collins, 
Dickens and even by Conan Doyle after 1880.
I have no idea if that was old fashioned at their time, though.

Rainer

On 28.01.2018 11:11, Rainer wrote:
> Dear lute-netters,
> 
> some of you certainly know (have) Peter Holman's book.
> 
> I always thought that this pronunciation of numbers (as still used in German) 
> was only used in the 17th century and before and changed a long time ago.
> 
> Does anybody know when this changed (from four and twenty to twenty-four)?
> 
> Rainer
> 
> 
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