Two other survivors of the American attempt at the metric conversion:
   booze and tools. Alcohol is sold in metric units whether domestic or
   imported - typically 750ml (nearly all wine bottles), 1 liter and 1.75
   (why not just make it 2 liters?).

   Tools like wrenches, etc. are often sold in sets that include both
   types of measurements. If you don't purchase both at the beginning, you
   might as well plan on having to make a special run to the hardware
   store when you go to fix that wobbly table leg. Whatever system you
   already own, it will be the wrong one!

   Chris
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   On Monday, January 29, 2018, 7:01 AM, Christopher Stetson
   <[email protected]> wrote:

     And, to continue Monica's thoughts, the change Rainer is speaking of

     took place long before there were any standards for teachers at all.

     it also depends on time and place.  In the United States, we have

     certainly had standards for teachers for several decades, including

     grammar, though I have never heard of any authority in any English

     speaking country that could mandate this kind of usage.  However,

     almost all of the English speaking population of the United States

     still think in pints, yards, inches, gallons, and pounds.  The only

     exception would be the scientific community, and I'm sure they're

     "bilingual".  We made an attempt to officially go metric in the early

     1970's, but the only survivor is soft drinks.  I buy gallons of milk

     and gasoline, but liters of Coke.

     Best to all, and keep playing,

     Chris.

     On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 6:27 AM, [1][2][email protected]

     <[2][3][email protected]> wrote:

       There is never likely to be any official reform of the English

       language.  And teachers don't have a common opinion on what to

       teach

       children. The policy is to leave children to find everything out
   for

       themselves.

       As ever

       Monica

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     From: [3][4][email protected]

     Date: 29/01/2018 9:37

     To: "Lute net"<[4][5][email protected]>

     Subj: [LUTE] four and twenty

     A clarification:

     I always thought that there must have been (sort of) an official

     reform.

     At least teachers must have a common opinion what to teach children.

     Apparently there was none in England.

     In Germany from time to time "mathematicians" propose to change the

     German system since the current system makes learning Math hard for
   the

     children.

     Of course, this has nothing to do with mathematics :)

     I guess such a reform (in Germany) would be very confusing for
   several

     decades.

     Switching from shillings and pennies to 100 pence per pound must have

     been hard.

     Do many people still think in yards, miles, pints, ...?

     Cheers,

     Rainer

     PS

     A new standard kilogram will probably come soon.

     PPS

     Coming back to lute matters: most people describe string tensions in

     terms of Kg which is plain nonsense since Kg is the unit of matter.

     What should be used is Kilopond which is equal to the magnitude of
   the

     force exerted by one kilogram of mass in a 9.80665 m/s2 gravitational

     field.

     However, officially kilopond should not be used any more (since
   c1980).

     I still prefer to talk about a tension of 3 Kilopond instead of 29.4

     Newton :)

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