Ah, but Voyager is still going strong after 40 years. Voyager and its
   ‘Golden Record' are still going ~38,000 mph, about 13 billion miles
   from our sun. One of the musical selections chosen by Carl Sagan was a
   performance of Holborne's ‘Fairie Rownde' by David Munrow and The Early
   Music Consort of London. This record was recently re-issued, and
   actually won a GRAMMY last night!

   A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E.
   The Sleep of Reason Produces Monsters
   Francisco Goya

   On Jan 29, 2018, at 11:34 AM, Tristan von Neumann
   <[1][email protected]> wrote:

   Because of the constant clinging to weird units,
   we already lost an expensive Mars probe :)
   Am 29.01.2018 um 12:55 schrieb Christopher Stetson:

        And, to continue Monica's thoughts, the change Rainer is speaking
     of
        took place long before there were any standards for teachers at
     all.
        it also depends on time and place.   In the United States, we
     have
        certainly had standards for teachers for several decades,
     including
        grammar, though I have never heard of any authority in any
     English
        speaking country that could mandate this kind of usage.
     However,
        almost all of the English speaking population of the United
     States
        still think in pints, yards, inches, gallons, and pounds.   The
     only
        exception would be the scientific community, and I'm sure they're
        "bilingual".   We made an attempt to officially go metric in the
     early
        1970's, but the only survivor is soft drinks.   I buy gallons of
     milk
        and gasoline, but liters of Coke.
        Best to all, and keep playing,
        Chris.
        On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 6:27 AM, [1][2][email protected]
        <[2][3][email protected]> wrote:
          There is never likely to be any official reform of the English
          language.   And teachers don't have a common opinion on what to
          teach
          children. The policy is to leave children to find everything
     out for
          themselves.
          As ever
          Monica
        ----Original Message----
        From: [3][4][email protected]
        Date: 29/01/2018 9:37
        To: "Lute net"<[4][5][email protected]>
        Subj: [LUTE] four and twenty
        A clarification:
        I always thought that there must have been (sort of) an official
        reform.
        At least teachers must have a common opinion what to teach
     children.
        Apparently there was none in England.
        In Germany from time to time "mathematicians" propose to change
     the
        German system since the current system makes learning Math hard
     for the
        children.
        Of course, this has nothing to do with mathematics :)
        I guess such a reform (in Germany) would be very confusing for
     several
        decades.
        Switching from shillings and pennies to 100 pence per pound must
     have
        been hard.
        Do many people still think in yards, miles, pints, ...?
        Cheers,
        Rainer
        PS
        A new standard kilogram will probably come soon.
        PPS
        Coming back to lute matters: most people describe string tensions
     in
        terms of Kg which is plain nonsense since Kg is the unit of
     matter.
        What should be used is Kilopond which is equal to the magnitude
     of the
        force exerted by one kilogram of mass in a 9.80665 m/s2
     gravitational
        field.
        However, officially kilopond should not be used any more (since
     c1980).
        I still prefer to talk about a tension of 3 Kilopond instead of
     29.4
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