Isn't "lute nerd" a completely redundant term? [1]Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
On Saturday, March 3, 2018, 6:46 PM, Ron Andrico <[email protected]> wrote: An important point is that the term fantasia did not have the same meaning (noun) we ascribe to the term today, particularly in 16th-century Spanish sources. Fantasia referred to the act of invention, or improvisation, for which it was essential to understand the art of composition. A fantasia was in essence an improvisation. __________________________________________________________________ From: [2][email protected] <[3][email protected]> on behalf of G. C. <[4][email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 3, 2018 10:16 PM To: Lute List Subject: [LUTE] Re: Calling all lute nerds... Santamaria says at the end of his textbooks: "He who wishes to become a consummate performer must also devote himself to playing counterpoint of rhythmic elegance and melodic grace over plainsong and above all, over mensural song, and he must practice this little by little until he has made himself perfect in it: for this is the root and the source out of which issue all the accomplishments possible on the clavichord, besides the excellence and beauty it imparts to all the music one may play." This is the closest quote I could find therein pertinent to your query. B.R. G. On Sat, Mar 3, 2018 at 10:24 PM, G. C. <[1][5][email protected]> wrote: Could the quote perhaps be found in "El arte de taner fantasia" by Tomas Santamaria? G. On Sat, Mar 3, 2018 at 7:39 PM, Matthew Daillie <[1][2][6][email protected]> wrote: Hi Martin, Several vihuelists seemed to say something along those lines but I suspect that the quote you might be looking for is by Fuenllana: 'My opinion is that whoever truly wishes to learn music should always train himself in studying and transcribing composed works, since the true profit is obtained from them. And if the fantasias in this book have some fragrance of composition, I confess the reason to be that I have seen and transcribed many works of excellent authors.' Do you have Luis Gasser's book 'Luis Milan on Sixteenth Century Performance Practice? If so, look up page 113 ff. Best, Matthew On 03/03/2018 19:20, Martin Shepherd wrote: Dear Collective Wisdom, Can someone point me in the correct direction for the quote (from Bermudo? Milan? someone else entirely?) who said roughly (in translation) "but the highest form of this art is to play fantasia" or something like that, meaning to take a theme or themes from vocal music and use them to create an instrumental piece. Merci d'avance, Martin To get on or off this list see list information at [2][3][7]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. mailto:[4][8][email protected] 2. [5][9]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. [1]mailto:[10][email protected] 2. [2]mailto:[11][email protected] 3. [3][12]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html [4]Lute Mail list technical information www.cs.dartmouth.edu How do I get on the lute mail list? To get on the mail list, send email with a Subject: of "subscribe" to [13][email protected] and your name will be added to ... 4. [5]mailto:[14][email protected] 5. [6][15]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html [7]Lute Mail list technical information www.cs.dartmouth.edu How do I get on the lute mail list? To get on the mail list, send email with a Subject: of "subscribe" to [16][email protected] and your name will be added to ... -- References 1. mailto:[17][email protected] 2. mailto:[18][email protected] 3. [19]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 4. [20]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 5. mailto:[21][email protected] 6. [22]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 7. [23]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/?.src=iOS 2. mailto:[email protected] 3. mailto:[email protected] 4. mailto:[email protected] 5. mailto:[email protected] 6. mailto:[email protected] 7. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 8. mailto:[email protected] 9. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 10. mailto:[email protected] 11. mailto:[email protected] 12. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 13. mailto:[email protected] 14. mailto:[email protected] 15. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 16. mailto:[email protected] 17. mailto:[email protected] 18. mailto:[email protected] 19. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 20. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 21. mailto:[email protected] 22. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 23. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
