Nothing to do with the model.
Caravaggio himself was documented to have been a competent plucker,
so he absolutely knew how to depict them fingers in correct positions.
David van Edwards is "right on the money".
RT
On 3/4/2019 3:01 AM, Martyn Hodgson wrote:
There's no reason why the third finger should not be held on the belly
- rather than the more conventional fourth. Indeed, some historical
players (Kapsberger comes to mind) are recorded as only plucking with
the thumb, first and second fingers.
Further, it's not wholly unlikely that the painting shows a model who
may not have had much, if any, real instruction on how to play the
instrument - how many modern depictions of lutes (in ads etc) depict
unlikely postures which are accepted by the general public (eg a
current UK Building society TV ad) and even, amazingly, a print ad for
a manufacturer of thirteen course and other lutes being played in what
appears to be an unconventional manner
MH
On Saturday, 2 March 2019, 04:39:51 GMT, Lisa Sass @muse
<muse314...@gmail.com> wrote:
You're welcome! Towards the end, he gets into finger position. Plus,
link to a followup article from ~2005 is at the very bottom.
Sent from my TRS-80
> On Mar 1, 2019, at 22:09, Edward C. Yong <[1]edward.y...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> Thank you! This may well have been it!
>
>> On 2 Mar 2019, at 12:02 PM, Lisa Sass @muse
<[2]muse314...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Was it David Van
>> Edwards? [1][3]http://www.vanedwards.co.uk/month/jun99/month.htm
>>
>> ~Lisa Sass
>> Sent from my TRS-80
>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 21:47, Edward C. Yong
<[2][4]edward.y...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi everyone,
>> over a decade ago, I recall attending one of the talks at the UK
Lute
>> Society's meetings where the speaker talked about paintings of lute
>> players, and said he felt a certain painting (Caravaggio?) was
likely a
>> fake on account of the positioning of the fingers. It was quite a
>> compelling argument at the time.
>> Does anyone recall who the talk was by and if a transcript is
>> available?
>> Thanks in advance!
>> Edward
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>> 1. [6]http://www.vanedwards.co.uk/month/jun99/month.htm
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2. mailto:muse314...@gmail.com
3. http://www.vanedwards.co.uk/month/jun99/month.htm
4. mailto:edward.y...@gmail.com
5. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
6. http://www.vanedwards.co.uk/month/jun99/month.htm
7. mailto:edward.y...@gmail.com
8. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
