Dear Alain,
A copy of a 1980 edition of the lute and viola sonata* arrived on
Friday. I can't get on to your site to compare it today. I could
yesterday. (". . . projects/view/5") P.S. have your message will
re-connect.
The ms copy** is unusual. It seems to be a kind of pointillistic
transcription from tablature. The notes that would sustain are often
transcribed as short notes. I think you extended them also, e.g., meas
35-40, 64-66, 77-79 bass has long notes (quarters or half notes) in my
print, but the ms has 16ths for the bass notes..
I need to get back to Sciurus about whom you asked. He's in the
related manuscript 40151 (vol. 1) to 40150 (vol. 2). Both purchased in
1897 by Wilhelm Tappert from Antiquarian Liste in Leipzig, where
grandson Rust held forth as Thomas-Kantor.
--Arthur Ness
*Friedrich Wilhelm Rust, **Sonata für Viola und Klavier nach dem
Autograph (!) erstmalig herausgegeben von Wolfgang Sawodhy.**
(München: Verlag Walter Wollenweber, 1980). pp. 7 (score) + 3 (viola).
** https://digital.staatsbibliothek-berlin.de/werkansicht?PPN=PPN882226
452&PHYSID=PHYS_0002&DMDID=DMDLOG_0001&view=overview-toc
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From: Alain Veylit <[email protected]>
Cc: Lute List <[email protected]>
Sent: Sun, Mar 17, 2019 1:05 pm
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Rust - transcriptions of 21 and 53, I and II
Thanks for the suggestions, Martyn.
Actually, I was wondering about the Johann Ludwig Krebs concerto in C
for B. lute and strings. The score is widely available on the Net -
here on scribd:
[1][1]https://www.scribd.com/document/371003432/Krebs-Johann-Ludwig-C-D
ur-
Krebs-WV-202 - or straight from the Berlin Staatsbibliothek:
[2][2]http://resolver.staatsbibliothek-berlin.de/SBB0002115900000000
Anybody knows anything about this concerto? It seems to be the one
and
only lute piece in Krebs' production, and it is rather ambitious from
an orchestral point of view: lute, 2 violins, viola and cello. I did
not find a trace of a recording of it - Krebs was held in high regard
by J.S. Bach and it s always odd to find the odd lute piece in a
composer's output... The lute part is in tablature, so it should be
less of a challenge than Rust from a transcription point of view. I
found a modern edition of it, which has all the parts ... except for
the lute!
Happy Sunday,
Alain
On 3/17/19 2:53 AM, Martyn Hodgson wrote:
You may consider transcribing some of Haydn's wonderful keyboard
works
or violin and keyboard or piano trios - careful selection will throw
up
works similarly accommoating to the the late lute as the Rust
pieces..
And, of course, some of the Baryton trios can work well with lute in
place of the Baryton...
Might also use the late eighteenth century fashionable
gallichon/mandora too - instead of the 13 course Dm lute.......
MH
On Saturday, 16 March 2019, 21:16:39 GMT, Alain Veylit
[3]<[3][email protected]> wrote:
Those of you interested in late 18th century Baroque lute +
violin/viola
may be interested in transcriptions of Rust sonatas I made that are
now
available for viewing:
I. Sonata in C Major for lute and viola (Rust 21). I worked with
Jean-Daniel Forget to see if we could get a playable tablature
version
of the lute part. The original MS is in grand-staff notation. I am
interested in performers' feedback, particularly because of arpeggios
on
diapasons. Jean-Daniel thinks it is very feasible, I am still a bit
uneasy with those. I don't think there is another tablature
transcription of that sonata but perhaps there is ...
The link to that is:
[4][4]http://fandango.musickshandmade.com/projects/view/5
. You will need a login to view that project. It is free and it can
put
you on the world map of lutenists, which is a fun little app.
II. and III. I provided transcriptions, also in collaboration with
Jean-Daniel, of the sonatas I (G) and II (Dm) for lute and violin
based
on the violin parts from the Berlin Staatsbibliothek and the
tablature
part from the Krakow 40150 MS.
The link to those is:
[5]http://fandango.musickshandmade.com/projects/view/7.
Finally, I am currently still working on a transcription of the H-dur
sonata -- that is a headache... The lute part is also in grand-staff
notation and not at all obvious due to various problems. It is one of
the "revised and improved" Rust sonatas... I found only one edition
of
that H-Dur sonata ... adapted for modern guitar. Sad, no?
There is a comments field where you can leave your impressions,
corrections, etc. if you chose to do so.
Alain
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References
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[6]https://www.scribd.com/document/371003432/Krebs-Johann-Ludwig-C-Dur-
Krebs-WV-202
2. [7]http://resolver.staatsbibliothek-berlin.de/SBB0002115900000000
3. mailto:[8][email protected]
4. [9]http://fandango.musickshandmade.com/projects/view/5
5. [10]http://fandango.musickshandmade.com/projects/view/7
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References
1. https://www.scribd.com/document/371003432/Krebs-Johann-Ludwig-C-Dur-
2. http://resolver.staatsbibliothek-berlin.de/SBB0002115900000000
3. mailto:[email protected]
4. http://fandango.musickshandmade.com/projects/view/5
5. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
6.
https://www.scribd.com/document/371003432/Krebs-Johann-Ludwig-C-Dur-Krebs-WV-202
7. http://resolver.staatsbibliothek-berlin.de/SBB0002115900000000
8. mailto:[email protected]
9. http://fandango.musickshandmade.com/projects/view/5
10. http://fandango.musickshandmade.com/projects/view/7
11. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html