Dear Ranier, Much overdue - many thanks for this fine initiative. I'll certainly try to contribute - but perhaps a dedicated email address might be helpful too? Wayne, Might this be possible - if desirable? (eg [email protected]....) I very much like the idea of including the late eighteenth century Italian 'lutes' (mandolas etc) into the equation since they are common(-ish) in Italian paintings of the period but rarer in music. Also it'd also be good to have direct links to early published papers - even to much neglected earlier papers such as Rudolf Luck's 1954 dissertation (Erlangen) published in Deutsches Jahrbuch der Musik.... 1960. And, of course, papers by important pioneers like Pietro Prosser and Dieter Kirsch - in translation too if possible). And please don't forget the large instrument (perhaps the origin of the subsequent mandora/gallichon family) in a (mostly) nominal A tuning and which, to differentiate it from the smaller instruments in a nominal D or E, I usually call the calchedon (or similar). Incidentally, has anyone insights into the extra-ordinary duets by 'Signore Kneferle' in Eichstatt for the 'Clavicembalo e una Mandora' (Esl VIII 41) or the six sonatas for the same combination (Esl VIII 34). To fit with the keyboard (obligatto) part, the 'mandora' required seems to be tuned in nominal B - thus suggesting a large instrument (ie calchedon). But the mandora/calchedon writing is quite busy as befits classical style music in a late eighteenth century manner (Kneferle born and died Eichstatt 1746 - 1811) and a smaller (mandora size) instrument seems much more likely to me - but therefore is the keyboard transposing? Kneferle (Franz, Heinrich, Wendelin I think) was an organist so perhaps transposition was natural to him? This issue has been on my mind for years and so if anyone out there in the mandora/gallichon world can help, this link will have proved its worth already! regards Martyn PS More to follow hopefully on the unsung late master of the mandora/gallichon in chamber music: Joseph Zinck - a veritable giant of fine works in ensemble (and idiomatic song arrangements too - Mozart, Dittersdorf, et al) for the mandora c.1790/1800 - much in the style of Haydn..................
On Thursday, 21 November 2019, 18:29:19 GMT, Seicento/Rainer Luckhardt <[email protected]> wrote: Dear Lute-List, I'm going to set up a website about the 18th century mandora/gallichon. This might be a place for general information about the instrument(s), its history, where it has been played, composers, and, and, and.....but also information about where to find a player, a lutemaker, and last but not least a download page for lots of pieces. Those who already know a bit about 18th century mandora music: don't be afraid! I'm not going to present hundreds of bad and boaring menuets there. Amongst all the manuscripts which I have (quite a lot, in copy of course) I've found many interesting pieces, technically not to much demanding, often with nice melodies, and sometimes music of high quality in baroque or gallant style. During the last years I've made a collection of my favorite pieces and suites, and I made readable copies of it with Fronimo. Probably other mandora players did the same. So why not putting together the whole mandora wisdom and repertoire and collect it in the web, downloadable for free and open to all. That's quite a lot of work of which I've already done a bit. Therefore I would like to ask the mandora players of amongst us (I know there are some....) to participate to this idea, and to contribute whatever might be of interest. You can have a look to this very basic website with just an index-page, a completely empty "about Mandora"-page and the impressum (which is obligatory in Germany). The web adress is: www.gallichon.de But some buttons are already there, and so at least you can see which themes I have integrated until now. But that's just work in progress, and to be filled with real information soon. If you have any suggestion about what else should be there, if you have any material to share, don't hesitate to contact me. The website shall be in english and german. As you certainly have seen I'm not a native speaker. Any help in transforming my poor english into something closer to good english is welcome. Let's try it. Rainer -- ______________________ SEICENTO-Notenversand Rainer Luckhardt Holbeinstrasse 12 D-79312 Emmendingen Tel. ++49/(0)7641 - 932803 Internet: www.seicentomusic.de VAT/UID-Nr. DE 142 047 317 To get on or off this list see list information at [1]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
