And also hear a recording of some chamber music with obbligato mandora
by the excellent Zinck (Zincke) also on Rainer's site here:
[1]Zincke Mandora sonata 7May16.wav
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As Ranier points out, the tension on the wandervogel instrument is like
a six string guitar and much higher than on the double course
mandora/gallichon. Moreover soundboards of the the early instruments
are very much like that of a lute of the period:thin and generally with
similar lute type barring. All these features make the mandora sound
much closer to the lute than the wandervogel 'lute'..
Martyn Hodgson
On Friday, 24 January 2020, 14:06:07 GMT, Seicento/Rainer Luckhardt
<seicentomu...@arcor.de> wrote:
Becoming a mandora enthusiast without having a mandora can only happen,
if first of all you like the music which has been written for this
instrument. Its standard tuning is equal to modern guitar tuning. There
have been mandoras tuned in E (like guitar) or one note lower in D. So
you can play this music directly from the tab on a modern guitar, or,
as
you mentioned, on a Wandervogel lute. (But a lot of the original
repertoire is asking for another tuning where the lowest course is
tuned
up a third (in E= e' - h - g - d - A - G).
The arrangements of the Mandora Website are all adapted for standard
tuning. Of course playing this music on guitar or Wandervogel lute
sounds - what else - like guitar or Wandervogel lute, but it can give
you an impression of what the music itself sounds like - and if you
like
it. If you would like to hear how this music sounds played on mandora
please listen to what Rod Blocksidge offers on his vimeo channel (link
on www.mandora.de/audio).
Coming close to the mandora sound by using modern guitar or a
Wandervogel lute will be difficult because of their much higher string
tension. You can try to replace your strings by some lute strings with
less tension, but I'm not sure if this will be satisfying and makes a
good sound.
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Am 24.01.2020 um 14:15 schrieb Tristan von Neumann:
> Can I become a Mandora enthusiast by using a Wandervogel lute?...
>
> What's the stringing choice to come close to Mandora sound?
>
>
> On 24.01.20 14:16, Martyn Hodgson wrote:
>> Well done Rainer,
>> - let's hope this produces even more interest in this relatively
>> neglected but, once, popular little family of instruments.
>> regards
>> Martyn
>>
>> On Friday, 24 January 2020, 13:06:47 GMT, Seicento/Rainer
Luckhardt
>> <[2]seicentomu...@arcor.de> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> I would like to inform you that I have setup a new website
>> dedicated
>> to
>> the Gallichon/Mandora, where some information can be found,
and
>> where
>> some music for solo mandora, songs with mandora or chamber
>> music with
>> mandora is already integrated and downloadable for free. You
>> can find
>> links to libraries which offer their digitized manuscripts
with
>> mandora
>> music online. The website is in german and english language,
>> and it's
>> still a work in progress. So from time to time I will put in
some
>> more
>> music (or audio files). Of course other mandora-enthusiast are
>> invited
>> to participate as well. The music is mostly unknown and taken
from
>> different mss.
>> You can visit this page at: [1]www.gallichon. de or
>> [2]www.mandora.org
>> --
>> ______________________
>> SEICENTO-Notenversand
>> Rainer Luckhardt
>> Holbeinstrasse 12
>> D-79312 Emmendingen
>> Tel. ++49/(0)7641 - 932803
>> Internet: [3]www.seicentomusic.de
>> VAT/UID-Nr. DE 142 047 317
>> --
>> References
>> 1. [1][3]http://www.gallichon/
>> 2. [2][4]http://www.mandora.org/
>> 3. [3][5]http://www.seicentomusic.de/
>> To get on or off this list see list information at
>> [4][6]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
>>
>> --
>>
>> References
>>
>> 1. [7]http://www.gallichon/
>> 2. [8]http://www.mandora.org/
>> 3. [9]http://www.seicentomusic.de/
>> 4. [10]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
>>
>
>
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