Some years ago I recorded all the Terzi diets and had a good look at his intabulations. Not easy, but not impossible. Here's what I wrote at the time:
[1]https://davidvanooijen.wordpress.com/terzis-intabulations/ Davud On Mon, 16 Mar 2020 at 17:49, Frank A. Gerbode, M.D. <[2]sa...@gerbode.net> wrote: That seems right. I have encountered a number of intabulations of multi-voice (like 5-6) pieces that seem unplayable (and not just to me), and I reached the conclusion that they were conceptual and the player did the best they could. --Sarge On 3/16/2020 03:08, Ron Andrico wrote: > I think it is generally accepted that fret positions that would call > for glued frets on the belly are conceptual. Meaning, if there was a > fret there, it would be an o. > > Molinaro's music is rich in rapid passage work but the real difficulty > lies in managing the counterpoint. He was an organist and some of his > lute tablature transcribed into keyboard notation could sound very well > on an organ. I think he just worked out his lute arrangements to the > fullest and expected that the player would aim for that ideal or modify > as necessary. > > RA > __________________________________________________________________ > > From: [3]lute-...@new-old-mail.cs.dartmouth.edu > <[4]lute-...@new-old-mail.cs.dartmouth.edu> on behalf of Sean Smith > <[5]lutesm...@gmail.com> > Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2020 5:32 PM > To: lute <[6]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> > Subject: [LUTE] Re: Molinaro 12 > > Are we assuming belly frets up there? > s > On Sun, Mar 15, 2020 at 10:27 AM Christopher Stetson > <[1][7]christophertstet...@gmail.com> wrote: > ...or had large hands. Actually, though, I don't find them more > technically difficult than many of the chanson intabulations of > earlier > publications. > On Sun, Mar 15, 2020, 1:12 PM Tristan von Neumann > <[1][2][8]tristanvonneum...@gmx.de> wrote: > But seriously, how do you play > (pardon my French) > o > k > i > ?? > Molinaro must have played a small lute... > On 15.03.20 17:59, Sean Smith wrote: > > I foolishly mentioned that to him once. In his > defense > he > pointed out > > it was his first recording nearly 30 years ago. I'm > still > pretty > > impressed with it. > > And then there's his Terzi cd that is top notch. > > Sean > > > > On Sun, Mar 15, 2020, 11:22 AM Jurgen Frenz > > <[1][2][3][9]eye-and-ear-cont...@protonmail.com> wrote: > > > > what about asking him? > > Some fool (for our free of charge pleasure) > uploaded > a CD > of > > Molinaro pieces played by Paul Beier (do you happen > to know > him?). > > Mea culpa I downloaded it - but I believe I can > hear > how he > was > > struggling with the playing technique. > > Best > > JÃÃÃÃÃà à ¼rgen > > Ãà à ¢Ãà à ¢Ãà à ¢Ãà à ¢Ãà à ¢Ãà à ¢Ãà à ¢ Original Message Ãà à ¢Ãà à ¢Ãà à ¢Ãà > à ¢Ãà > à ¢Ãà à ¢Ãà > à ¢ > > On Sunday, March 15, 2020 3:38 PM, Tristan von > Neumann > > <[2][3][4][10]tristanvonneum...@gmx.de> wrote: > > > But No. 12 is certainly one of the most difficult > pieces > of the > > entire > > > literature. > > > I guess even Paul O'Dette struggled a lot with > it. > > To get on or off this list see list information at > > > > [3][4][5][11]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > > > > -- > > > > References > > > > 1. mailto:[5][6][12]eye-and-ear-cont...@protonmail.com > > 2. mailto:[6][7][13]tristanvonneum...@gmx.de > > 3. > [7][8][14]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > > > -- > References > 1. mailto:[9][15]tristanvonneum...@gmx.de > 2. mailto:[10][16]eye-and-ear-cont...@protonmail.com > 3. mailto:[11][17]tristanvonneum...@gmx.de > 4. 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