[LUTE] Re: Ris: Re: fronimo under wine?

Tristan von Neumann Tue, 11 Aug 2020 14:28:18 -0700

   I don't blame Bill Gates for Windows, I blame him for his psychopathic
   delusions.


   Anyone who flew on Epstein's lolita express is a crook.

   That's why no money goes there from my side.

   But let's not go there, this isn't the forum.

   On 11.08.20 21:55, John Mardinly wrote:

   Tristan;

   Actually, Bill Gates DID sell most of his shares. He now owns 1% of
   Microsoft. The vast majority of the shares are owned by institutional
   investors such as pension funds, insurance companies ETF's, etc. Hell,
   I own Microsoft shares, but I don't use Windowsâ¦because it's horrible,
   which you can't even blame Gates for, anymore.

   A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E.

   On Aug 10, 2020, at 3:49 PM, Tristan von Neumann
   <[1]tristanvonneum...@gmx.de> wrote:

   ï¿½ ï¿½Did he sell all his shares too?...
   ï¿½ ï¿½As far as I know, he's still a major shareholder.
   ï¿½ ï¿½So your argument is meaningless.
   ï¿½ ï¿½On 10.08.20 23:24, John Mardinly wrote:
   ï¿½ ï¿½Bill Gates turned the Microsoft CEO job over to Steve Balmer TWENTY
   ï¿½ ï¿½years ago.
   ï¿½ ï¿½A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E.
   ï¿½ ï¿½On Aug 10, 2020, at 12:26 PM, Tristan von Neumann
   ï¿½ ï¿½<[1][2]tristanvonneum...@gmx.de> wrote:
   ï¿½ ï¿½I agree.
   ï¿½ ï¿½Also, I wouldn't want to give anything to Mr. Gates.
   ï¿½ ï¿½On 10.08.20 20:45, Frank A. Gerbode, M.D. wrote:
   ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½I already have a setup like that. ï¿½I have a win10 machine
   running a
   ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½virtual machine under hyper-v that is running ubuntu linux. 
Both
   ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½work
   ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½OK, but I would like to ditch windows altogether. Maybe that's
   ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½silly,
   ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½but on principle I would like to ï¿½be running open source as 
much
   as
   ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½possible. Except for fronimo, of course.
   ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½--Sarge
   ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½On 8/10/2020 11:01, guy_and_liz Smith wrote:
   ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½Back before I retired from the tech industry (2015), I used
   Vagrant
   ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½with VirtualBox on a Linux computer to run various operating
   systems
   ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½as virtual machines, mostly for development and testing 
purposes
   ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½(Vagrant basically simplifies using VMs, including but not
   limited
   ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½to
   ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½VirtualBox). Strictly, you need a license to run Windows 10 
in a
   ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½virtual machine, although if you don't connect to the internet
   it
   ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½will probably work OK. Never actually tried it, though. IIRC,
   you
   ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½can
   ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½get free Vagrant boxes to run earlier versions of Windows, 
which
   ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½might be an option as long as Fronimo doesn't have Windows 10
   ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½specific code.
   ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½Guy
   ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½-----Original Message-----
   ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½From: [2][3]lute-...@new-old-mail.cs.dartmouth.edu
   ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½[[3][4]mailto:lute-...@new-old-mail.cs.dartmouth.edu] On 
Behalf
   Of
   ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½[4][5]lastrai...@interfree.it
   ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 10:23 AM
   ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½To: Tristan von Neumann; [5][6]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
   ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½Subject: [LUTE] Ris: Re: fronimo under wine?
   ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½In my experience Fronimo cannot work 
"directly" on a
   Linux
   ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½platform
   ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½using Wine. But an alternative way to make it 
work is to
   install
   ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½in
   ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½your Linux a Virtual Machine that let you run 
Windows:
   first
   ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½thing to
   ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½do is creating a Windows Virtual Machine. 
Second step is
   to
   ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½install and
   ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½run FRONIMO as normal. This is not a 
100%"pure" Linux
   solution
   ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½but it
   ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½works well, printing procedures etc. 
included. Hope this
   can
   ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½help.
   ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½Gian Luca Lastraioli
   ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½-------- Messaggio originale --------
   ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½Oggetto: [LUTE] Re: fronimo under wine?
   ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½Da: Tristan von Neumann
   ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½A: [6][7]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
   ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½CC:
   ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½I agree. I would buy Fronimo if it 
worked properly
   under
   ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½Linux.
   ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½I had trouble in the demo version. 
Printing to file
   didn't
   ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½work
   ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½(blank
   ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½pages though the preview is visible. 
Is this
   deliberate?).
   ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½That's sad because I have some 
fronimo files from
   the yahoo
   ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½group I
   ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½would have loved to print.
   ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½Also I would love to contribute to 
Sarge's archive.
   ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½On 10.08.20 17:54, Frank A. Gerbode, 
M.D. wrote:

     Many people that would like to run fronimo cannot do so

   ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½because
   ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½they

     are on a linux platform.Ã, ï¿½My website is hosted on a linux

   ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½machine, all

     on the software I use in maintaining the site is linux-based

   ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½(python,

     actually) and I would like to convert all my work to linux.

   ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½It's
   ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½only

     fronimo that is holding me back.
     Has anyone succeeded in running fronimo in linux under wine?

   ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½I
   ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½have

     ubuntu 20.04 and wine 5.0. I can install fronimo OK, but

   ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½firing up
   ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½a

     fronimo file, the first page is blank.
     Possibly there are configuration options under wine that

   ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½would
   ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½make

     fronimo work.
     Any success, anyone?
     --Sarge

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