Can we please stop the rant. Not everyone agrees that Gates is evil or that Windows is horrible. This is just becoming offensive. David
-----Original Message----- From: lute-...@new-old-mail.cs.dartmouth.edu <lute-...@new-old-mail.cs.dartmouth.edu> On Behalf Of Tristan von Neumann Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2020 2:16 PM To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: Ris: Re: fronimo under wine? I don't blame Bill Gates for Windows, I blame him for his psychopathic delusions. Anyone who flew on Epstein's lolita express is a crook. That's why no money goes there from my side. But let's not go there, this isn't the forum. On 11.08.20 21:55, John Mardinly wrote: Tristan; Actually, Bill Gates DID sell most of his shares. He now owns 1% of Microsoft. The vast majority of the shares are owned by institutional investors such as pension funds, insurance companies ETF's, etc. Hell, I own Microsoft shares, but I don't use Windows…because it's horrible, which you can't even blame Gates for, anymore. A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. On Aug 10, 2020, at 3:49 PM, Tristan von Neumann <[1]tristanvonneum...@gmx.de> wrote: � �Did he sell all his shares too?... � �As far as I know, he's still a major shareholder. � �So your argument is meaningless. � �On 10.08.20 23:24, John Mardinly wrote: � �Bill Gates turned the Microsoft CEO job over to Steve Balmer TWENTY � �years ago. � �A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. � �On Aug 10, 2020, at 12:26 PM, Tristan von Neumann � �<[1][2]tristanvonneum...@gmx.de> wrote: � �I agree. � �Also, I wouldn't want to give anything to Mr. Gates. � �On 10.08.20 20:45, Frank A. Gerbode, M.D. wrote: � � � �I already have a setup like that. �I have a win10 machine running a � � � �virtual machine under hyper-v that is running ubuntu linux. Both � � � �work � � � �OK, but I would like to ditch windows altogether. Maybe that's � � � �silly, � � � �but on principle I would like to �be running open source as much as � � � �possible. Except for fronimo, of course. � � � �--Sarge � � � �On 8/10/2020 11:01, guy_and_liz Smith wrote: � � � �Back before I retired from the tech industry (2015), I used Vagrant � � � �with VirtualBox on a Linux computer to run various operating systems � � � �as virtual machines, mostly for development and testing purposes � � � �(Vagrant basically simplifies using VMs, including but not limited � � � �to � � � �VirtualBox). Strictly, you need a license to run Windows 10 in a � � � �virtual machine, although if you don't connect to the internet it � � � �will probably work OK. Never actually tried it, though. IIRC, you � � � �can � � � �get free Vagrant boxes to run earlier versions of Windows, which � � � �might be an option as long as Fronimo doesn't have Windows 10 � � � �specific code. � � � �Guy � � � �-----Original Message----- � � � �From: [2][3]lute-...@new-old-mail.cs.dartmouth.edu � � � �[[3][4]mailto:lute-...@new-old-mail.cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of � � � �[4][5]lastrai...@interfree.it � � � �Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 10:23 AM � � � �To: Tristan von Neumann; [5][6]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu � � � �Subject: [LUTE] Ris: Re: fronimo under wine? � � � � � � � �In my experience Fronimo cannot work "directly" on a Linux � � � �platform � � � � � � � �using Wine. But an alternative way to make it work is to install � � � �in � � � � � � � �your Linux a Virtual Machine that let you run Windows: first � � � �thing to � � � � � � � �do is creating a Windows Virtual Machine. Second step is to � � � �install and � � � � � � � �run FRONIMO as normal. This is not a 100%"pure" Linux solution � � � �but it � � � � � � � �works well, printing procedures etc. included. Hope this can � � � �help. � � � � � � � �Gian Luca Lastraioli � � � � � � � �-------- Messaggio originale -------- � � � � � � � �Oggetto: [LUTE] Re: fronimo under wine? � � � � � � � �Da: Tristan von Neumann � � � � � � � �A: [6][7]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu � � � � � � � �CC: � � � � � � � � � �I agree. I would buy Fronimo if it worked properly under � � � �Linux. � � � � � � � � � �I had trouble in the demo version. Printing to file didn't � � � �work � � � � � � � � � �(blank � � � � � � � � � �pages though the preview is visible. Is this deliberate?). � � � � � � � � � �That's sad because I have some fronimo files from the yahoo � � � �group I � � � � � � � � � �would have loved to print. � � � � � � � � � �Also I would love to contribute to Sarge's archive. � � � � � � � � � �On 10.08.20 17:54, Frank A. Gerbode, M.D. wrote: Many people that would like to run fronimo cannot do so � � � �because � � � � � � � � � �they are on a linux platform.Ã, �My website is hosted on a linux � � � � � � � � � �machine, all on the software I use in maintaining the site is linux-based � � � � � � � � � �(python, actually) and I would like to convert all my work to linux. � � � �It's � � � � � � � � � �only fronimo that is holding me back. Has anyone succeeded in running fronimo in linux under wine? � � � �I � � � � � � � � � �have ubuntu 20.04 and wine 5.0. I can install fronimo OK, but � � � �firing up � � � � � � � � � �a fronimo file, the first page is blank. Possibly there are configuration options under wine that � � � �would � � � � � � � � � �make fronimo work. 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