According to a source I cannot remember the Sonata lasted 55 minutes when 
played by Liszt.

This is much slower than some modern performances.

Rainer

Am 08.09.2020 um 01:09 schrieb howard posner:

On Sep 7, 2020, at 1:19 PM, Rainer <rads.bera_g...@t-online.de> wrote:

Even List could not play the Hammerklavier Sonate at Beethoven's metronome 
markings - if they are meant as they are today.

Hector Berlioz seems to indicate otherwise in an 1836 review of a Liszt concert 
in the La Revue et Gazette musicale de Paris:

"Liszt has explained the work in such a way that if the composer himself had 
returned from the grave, joy and pride would have swept over him. Not a note was 
left out, not one added (I followed the performance with the sheet music), not one 
alteration was made in the tempo that was not indicated in the text (….) It was the 
ideal performance of a work with the reputation of being unperformable. Liszt,
in bringing back a work that was previously not understood has shown that he is 
a pianist of the future.”

This quote is from "Early Performances of Beethoven’s ‘Hammerklavier’ Sonata 
op. 106 in France and England” by Marten Noorduin:

https://www.ripm.org/cnc/?p=592

Here’s a different translation:

"A new Oedipus, Liszt, has solved it, solved it in such a way that had the composer 
himself returned from the grave, a paroxysm of joy and pride would have swept over him. 
Not a note was left out, not one added . . . no inflection was effaced, no change of 
tempo permitted. Liszt, in thus making comprehensible a work not yet comprehended, has 
proved that he is the pianist of the future."

I haven’t seen the original Berlioz article in French (and it wouldn’t do me 
much good if I did).

The real problem with Beethoven’s metronome marks is that they were ignored in 
the early 20th century, and by time the early music movement got to Beethoven 
there was a performance tradition going back a few generations, and zillions of 
recordings establishing an accepted range of tempi. Some of them worked even 
though they were ridiculously wrong as a matter of performance practice: the 
Allegretto second movement of the Seventh Symphony played as if it were a slow 
movement comes to mind.

If I’m not mistaken, the Hammerklavier was the only piano sonata Beethoven 
published with metronome marks.  There are far more of them in the orchestral 
works. Roger Norrington, in his recordings of the Beethoven orchestral works, 
adhered to the metronome markings, and often offers explanations of them in his 
written notes.





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