[In reply to Erik:]
> ISTM that if LUV becomes just a LA subcommittee, and we subsequently
> regret the move, then we could always exit and incorporate LUV anew. A
> fear of vanishing into a black hole in LA needs an absence of a LUV
> grouping to act in its own interest in the future, if such fear is to
> have any substance, AFAICT.

Yes, though by then the LUV name and LUV domain would belong to
LA.  Still, I don't think that's a major obstacle.  If
(hypothetically) after the merger we decided to split from LA,
then I'd expect that the LA people would be reasonable, and
amicably let us have the LUV name/domain back.  And even if they
didn't, we could still reincorporate under a sufficiently
different name.  But I thought I should still point out that
technical possibility.

And, while I am myself (at the moment) opposed to
disincorporation, I do appreciate that after any
disincorporation (former) LUV members would make up a
substantial fraction of LA members, and our interests would be
important to LA.  (But, as I've mentioned before, even under
current arrangements, there's nothing to stop LUV members from
becoming LA members as well -- and many already are.)

> As has been stated so often on this thread, it is our activities which
> define us, and attract the sponsorship. Our future actions will amply
> defend us, I expect.

Yep.

-- Smiles, Les.
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