On Sun, 15 Jun 2014 01:06:42 James Harper wrote:
> > On Sat, 14 Jun 2014 15:42:59 Andrew McGlashan wrote:
> > > Yes on WiFi hotspot using Android, but most 2.x devices are too old to
> > > support 4G or new, but too budget to have all the right radios.  The
> > > biggest problem with older gear is the radios that are supported --
> > > that's the biggest reason to /need/ to update mobile phones too.
> > 
> > Kogan was offering 6G per month before Telstra stopped them from being
> > too competitive.
> 
> Got any evidence to support the claims that:
> 
> a. Telstra stopped Kogan selling mobile services

http://www.computerworld.com.au/article/523443/telstra_taken_court_over_ispone_service_termination/

The URLs you cited and the above give enough information.

> b. Telstra stopped them because they were too competitive

Andrew McGlashan predicted that Telstra would stop ISPOne/Kogan on luv-talk 
some months before it happened.  While there obviously isn't evidence that can 
stand in court against Telstra's legal team I think it's sufficient to 
convince most users of phone services.

> Kogan bought 'wholesale' services from ISPone who in turn bought services
> from Telstra. ISPone stopped paying Telstra so Telstra cut them off.

ISPOne allege that Telstra raised prices after contracts were signed.

The business that ISPOne was in was fairly simple.  All they had to do to 
avoid bankruptcy was to set the sell prices a bit higher than the buy prices.  
If the buy prices were suddenly increased then that causes immediate 
bankruptcy.

> Telstra elected to provide services to Aldi (who were in a similar
> (identical?) situation) to bail them out, but not to Kogan beyond a very
> short period after ISPone failed. They were under no obligation to do this.
> [1]

>From other articles I got the impression that Medion had a direct contract 
with Telstra before Telstra destroyed ISPOne.  If that's the case then Telstra 
did have an "obligation".  But like the "obligation" to ISPOne that sort of 
thing is optional to a company in Telstra's position.

> ISPone made at least one attempt to stop Kogan selling plans allowing
> customers to enjoy the high usage they had paid for, but that isn't
> Telstra. [2]

If Telstra increased the prices ISPOne was paying for data transfer then the 
only option for ISPOne would be to discourage users from transferring a lot of 
data.

> You could argue that Telstra refusing to do business with Kogan directly
> after ISPone's failure equates to Telstra stopping Kogan selling mobile
> services, but I disagree with that inference.

I believe that the fact that all the cheapest 3G plans disappeared in less 
than a year after Telstra's dispute with ISPOne is not a coincidence.  I 
believe that Telstra is making significantly more money now due to the lack of 
competition.

> [1]
> http://www.zdnet.com/telstra-picks-over-remains-of-ispone-saves-aldi-nixes-> 
> kogan-7000019542/ [2]
> http://www.zdnet.com/kogan-blames-ispone-for-mobile-customer-woes-700001336
> 5/

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