On 10/10/2014 8:50 PM, James Harper wrote:
>>
>> I had been emailing Don Armstrong, a DD, about my concerns.
>>
>> One very worrying aspect of that was the choice was either systemd or
>> upstart; there should have been a third option to continue entirely with
>> the status quo of sysvinit -- that third option wasn't a consideration.
>>
> 
> Got a citation for that?
> 
> Everything I've read is that the vote was for one of 5 choices:
> "
>   D    systemd 
>   U    upstart
>   O    openrc
>   V    sysvinit (no change)
>   F    requires further discussion
> "

I've read so much, unfortunately alot more negative -- I was wrong, you
are right.  Thank you.

> And that there was only one vote for the status quo, and that person voted 
> for further discussion in preference to that.
> 
> (https://lists.debian.org/debian-ctte/2014/02/msg00281.html)

This post has made quite a difference in my understanding and views
going forward:
  http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/the-biggest-myths.html

 - consequently, I am now *much* less concerned about systemd troubles.

I am still not happy about how the DU list is being handled, but that
isn't systemd itself.  They need a more open discussion list, such as
luv-talk, where almost anything goes and ideas / views / opinions can be
openly discussed without fear of moderation and/or filtering of
conversations that may or may not be relevant or applicable to the
general user base and without a dictator like ruling to hide things
under the carpet as if they were never said.

Cheers
A.

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