On 13/10/2014 1:07 PM, Trent W. Buck wrote:
> Andrew McGlashan writes:
> 
>> For Debian people, an easier migration path that seems very viable today
>> will be kFreeBSD
> 
> "We remain gravely concerned about the viability of this port. [...]
>  the port is in danger of being dropped from Jessie, and [we] invite any
>  porters who are able to commit to working on the port in the long term
>  to make themselves known *now*."
> 
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2014/09/msg00002.html

Well, that was an /old/ report, it certainly looks like kFreeBSD is in a
really healthy state and is really moving forward very well since that
news announcement.

I'll re-post the rest of what I wrote, be sure to read through the whole
message from Steven Chamberlain, at least he has empathy for the
problems of systemd.

This penned as possible news on kFreeBSD for upcoming publicity:

https://lists.debian.org/debian-bsd/2014/10/msg00146.html
 - "GNU/kFreeBSD "bits", publicity, status report"
 - - following on thread of "kFreeBSD future"
      https://lists.debian.org/debian-bsd/2014/09/msg00280.html

In a nutshell:
  MATE, not gnome
  no systemd, freedesktop.org
  sysvinit, potentially OpenRC later
  consolekit patched
  90% compiled base
  very usable desktop (not just for servers)

I've got to specifically quote this small, but important /delicate/
section of Steven Chamberlain message:

<quote>
* (delicately!) mention init system, still being a hot topic
  - no udev or systemd here;  I guess that makes us a "traditional"
    Debian flavour, UNIX-like and POSIX-focused
  - we did lose GNOME (I think mainly due to logind, but also libgbm)
  - otherwise, we seem to have all we need;  Robert fixed up consolekit
  - we chose to keep sysvinit as default, but are in a position to
    easily use alternate init systems;  OpenRC looks promising for the
    future (perhaps usable already?);  I guess file-rc still works
</quote>


*Much* progress from Wheezy, very promising future.

A.

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