On 02.04.15 23:01, Craig Sanders wrote: > On Thu, Apr 02, 2015 at 09:56:16PM +1100, Erik Christiansen wrote: > > Anything to reliably view video clips will do. > > either iceweasel or chromium will display youtube videos, html5 and even > flash if you have the flashplugin-nonfree installed. youtube's flash > viewer works with the ancient linux flash.
Ah, here's a flashplugin-nonfree: https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/i386/flashplugin-nonfree/download Oooh, and the other one for chromium: https://packages.debian.org/wheezy-backports/i386/pepperflashplugin-nonfree/download Many thanks! The first allows iceweasel to play BBC news clips. There is a longer wait, and there are no controls: it does not appear possible to switch to fullscreen, or even pause play. (Quite useful, since BBC auto-start the next clip on the tail of the previous, and whack in an advertisement for our delectation. OK, close tab stops that crap.) > vimeo videos seems to work ok in those browsers too. Yes, that worked without any flashplugin. > on other sites, results will vary. It does all seem to be a shambles. Back on ubuntu 10.04, it just worked, and it was faster. > as others have suggested, if you really need a recent flash for some > videos, try google chrome. not chromium, chrome. Oh. Wikipedia tells me that "Google Chrome is a freeware web browser". I had thought it was an OS ... or tablet platform, or somesuch. So, trying: $ apt-cache search chrome chromium - Google's open source chromium web browser chromium-browser - Chromium browser - transitional dummy package ... I'll try harder to find it later, but trying chromium with pepperflashplugin-nonfree first, I get "You need to install FlashPlayer to play this content." on the first BBC video clip that I click on. So pepperflashplugin-nonfree isn't doing much good for chromium - it could manage to not play BBC clips without help. > for BBC stuff, though, get_iplayer should be a better bet than flash > shit. and you get to download the video to watch whenever you want in > the player of your choice, without the hassles of streaming. With time, I could probably figure out something like: $ get_iplayer <url_pasted_from_clipboard> -c mplayer ... discovering and twiddling options till it works. But it all seems an egregious step backwards from ubuntu 10.04, where it all just worked with nothing more than clickery-pokery in firefox. > > > On the emc-users ML there's occasionally links to some CNC > > machine-porn [...] (All on youtube) > > if it's on youtube, it should be viewable in either iceweasel or > chromium. depending on the video, you may need the non-free flash plugin > installed. it's packaged for debian as flashplugin-nonfree (actually, > that's an installer package that downloads the flash plugin, installs > it, and sets it up properly in debian). Thanks again. That's exactly how it went. e.g. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFrVdoOhu1Q OK, that's not highly linuxy, but there is fleeting reference to harddrive air bearings. > install that. DON'T install just any random shit you download from the > net (even from adobe's site) because you will probably mess up your > system if you do. don't stray from the packaging system unless you know > what you're doing and why. After first losing X, then the ability to boot, I'm wiser now. Not smarter - just wiser. ... > most likely, iceweasel in jessie or testing will work well enough for > you. if not, try the version in experimental. if you try to install it > and it wants to install more than about 3 or 4 packages, just abort - > it's not worth the likely resulting mess. I'm still on an older one, wheezy/updates/main: $ apt-cache policy iceweasel iceweasel: Installed: 31.5.3esr-1~deb7u1 Candidate: 31.6.0esr-1~deb7u1 Version table: 37.0-1 0 1 http://ftp.au.debian.org/debian/ experimental/main i386 Packages 31.6.0esr-1~deb7u1 0 500 http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates/main i386 Packages *** 31.5.3esr-1~deb7u1 0 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status 31.3.0esr-1~deb7u1 0 500 http://ftp.au.debian.org/debian/ wheezy/main i386 Packages I'll try the "-t experimental" bit after I've had my computer back for more than a few hours, all of them spent futzing. At least debian 7.8.0 is better than ubuntu 14.04, which on two installs presented a blank desktop, without any menus, either visible or accessible through mousing past a perimeter edge, and without any mouse clickery that I could fluke, to invoke an xterm. I.e. no perceptible means of making the computer do anything other than open a document or "folder". Thanks again for persisting with this. Erik _______________________________________________ luv-main mailing list [email protected] http://lists.luv.asn.au/listinfo/luv-main
