On Fri, Apr 03, 2015 at 12:57:11AM +1100, Erik Christiansen wrote:
> > as others have suggested, if you really need a recent flash for some
> > videos, try google chrome. not chromium, chrome.
> 
> Oh. Wikipedia tells me that "Google Chrome is a freeware web browser".
> I had thought it was an OS ... or tablet platform, or somesuch. So,
> trying:
> 
> $ apt-cache search chrome

chromium is packaged and in debian. chrome isn't - you either need to
download it direct from google or perhaps add a google repository to
sources.list (i dunno if they have one).

chrome is a pre-compiled non-free program with various proprietary
extensions compiled in. chromium is the open source version of chrome.

however, as Trent mentioned, the pepperflashplugin-nonfree package
downloads google chrome, extracts the flash plugin from it, and sets it
up in debian to work with chromium.

so if you need a more recent flash plugin then you can either install
chrome, or you can install pepperflashplugin-nonfree


> chromium - Google's open source chromium web browser
> chromium-browser - Chromium browser - transitional dummy package
> ...
> 
> I'll try harder to find it later, but trying chromium with
> pepperflashplugin-nonfree first, I get "You need to install FlashPlayer
> to play this content." on the first BBC video clip that I click on.
>
> So pepperflashplugin-nonfree isn't doing much good for chromium - it
> could manage to not play BBC clips without help.

sorry, i have no idea why that happens - i don't use either chrome or
pepperflashplugin-nonfree

AFAIK, it *should* work.  

> > for BBC stuff, though, get_iplayer should be a better bet than flash
> > shit. and you get to download the video to watch whenever you want
> > in the player of your choice, without the hassles of streaming.
>
> With time, I could probably figure out something like:
>
> $ get_iplayer <url_pasted_from_clipboard> -c mplayer ...
>
> discovering and twiddling options till it works. But it all seems an
> egregious step backwards from ubuntu 10.04, where it all just worked
> with nothing more than clickery-pokery in firefox.

i find that once you figure out how a tool like this works, it's best
to write yourself a few wrapper scripts to simplify usage. e.g. i use
python-iview occasionally (usually when i don't record something i'm
interested in on ABC because i didn't find out about it until weeks
after the first episode - a minor flaw with my habit of ad-skipping
the station promos), and wrote simple wrapper scripts to download the
iview index to a standard location, grep that for particular shows,
display episode listings for particular shows, and extract the filename
from the listings to download with 'iview-cli -d'. and another script
to convert the .flv file downloaded to a .mp4 more compatible with the
mythtv viewer (mostly to convert the audio to ac3)


they're all blindingly obvious little scripts, from 1 - 10 lines each,
and not only simplify the most common functions (search, list, download,
transcode) they serve as a reminder of how to use iview-cli....all i
have to do is look at the script and then i think "ah, that's how it
works...i remember now".

> I'll try the "-t experimental" bit after I've had my computer back for
> more than a few hours, all of them spent futzing.

as always, use apt-get's '-d' (download-only) option first. if the
download set seems reasonable, run apt-get again without the '-d'.

the '-V' (verbose) option is also useful in combination with '-d'...it
shows full version number details of packages that are going to be
installed or upgraded.

e.g.:

# apt-get -V -d -u install pepperflashplugin-nonfree
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Suggested packages:
   ttf-xfree86-nonfree (4.2.1-4)
   hal ()
The following NEW packages will be installed:
   pepperflashplugin-nonfree (1.8.1)
0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 31 not upgraded.
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craig

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