Hi Mohit

> On 21 Jan 2020, at 11:07, Mohit Sethi M <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi Eliot,
> 
> I find your example rather disturbing. I am sure a dad does not want everyone 
> else on the Internet to see what his daughters toy is exfiltrating. You would 
> need encryption for that?
> 

Yes, you would!  But Dad might want to be able to have an agent to decrypt.  
Indeed Dad may want an agent that blocks certain

> 
> I am totally with you on the need for knowing what's inside the device and 
> how is the device behaving. RFC 8576 identifies this in Section 5.6 
> 'Verifying Device Behavior':https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8576#section-5.6 
> <https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8576#section-5.6>

Well indeed.  But I do think we should be considering what the first class 
objects are in these cases.

Eliot

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