Okay. No problem. We do have a fair amount of time while we are waiting for the translation work to be more complete, and we are not on a strict schedule here in any event. If you were to check the forum, people are delighted with what is in SVN now, and I have added a few easy things as they have been brought up there. I have closed most bugs within a day or two. We will most likely get these other things solved fairly quickly if we work together.
PCMan wrote: > Hey, > I'm sorry if this makes you unhappy. But that's not I really mean. > Quote your message: > " it takes three rounds of messages to get a crisp statement of what > the problem is and under what conditions." > Did you notice that my English is not good enough to precisely > describe what I mean? > I'm not trying to blame you for the regression bugs. If that's what > you felt, I'm really sorry. > However that's not what I mean. > > There are many exciting new features along with some regression bugs. > This is quite normal for actively developed projects. But the bugs > need to be recognized and fixed before stable release. I'm really > appreciated about what you've done. > > Besides, this is not a really simple bug. It's caused by my bad dirty > hacks in earlier releases and it's always a long standing problem. > Gtk+ tries to manage the background with its theming mechanism while > X11 tries to do the same thing at the same time. I personally don't > know how to make them work nicely together. This, however, causes some > hard-to-fix bugs. After reading gtk+ source code, I don't think this > is a simple bug. I still don't know how gtk+ styles actually work. But > sooner or later, we need to fix that. > > On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 8:26 PM, Marty Jack<[email protected]> wrote: >> It is distressing that it takes three rounds of messages to get a crisp >> statement of what the problem is and under what conditions. It is also >> distressing that your proposed solution to what is probably a simple bug is >> to totally replace something. It is also distressing that the problem is >> characterized as "yet another regression". >> >> My involvement with this project is nearing an end. >> >> PCMan wrote: >>> Try to use a image file as the background, and switch to system theme later. >>> Then, open and close windows frequently to cause repaint on taskbar list. >>> Then, you can see the severe flicker caused by previously set background >>> image. >>> This is yet another regression bug which doesn't exist in older >>> versions of lxpanel. >>> >>> On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 7:45 PM, Marty Jack<[email protected]> wrote: >>>> I am not at all sure I understand what you are getting at. I tested GTK >>>> theme switch including going back and forth to the other types and it >>>> worked. I freely admit I don't use theming and I don't understand it >>>> well. I think if you were to take out the mechanisms we have and replace >>>> it with something new that users have to understand in order to do what >>>> they can do today, they will be unhappy with your changes. >>>> >>>> PCMan wrote: >>>>> At the beginning of lxpanel development, Fred made use of GtkRcStyle >>>>> to set panel background. >>>>> Later, this causes various problems, so I re-wrote that part, and >>>>> using some low level dirty hacks. >>>>> However, this do cause some problems when you switch back and forth >>>>> between system theme and custom background. >>>>> Besides, this is not friendly to theme authors since they couldn't >>>>> theme the panel with gtkrc. >>>>> So, I'm considering switching back to GtkRCStyle conforming way to >>>>> handle panel background. >>>>> (Not sure if this works for transparent panels). >>>>> Besides, rather than setting random image files as panel background, >>>>> we should have better theming mechanism. >>>>> The users are able to choose from some lxpanel themes which can handle >>>>> font, text color, and background images. >>>>> All of these, of course, should be handled by gtkrc instead of our own >>>>> various dirty hacks. >>>>> >>>>> So, let the panel load a specific gtkrc file on startup and handle all >>>>> the theming in it. >>>>> Theme authors can provide different gtkrc files with related image files. >>>>> The users just choose from available themes rather than setting font >>>>> color or background in preference dialog. >>>>> If customization is really needed, the users can create their own >>>>> custom gtkrc file. >>>>> >>>>> Any comment? >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>> Enter the BlackBerry Developer Challenge >>>>> This is your chance to win up to $100,000 in prizes! 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