On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 2:42 PM, Bela Markus <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi, > > I'm maintaining LXDE/PCManFM on Tiny Core Linux (TC), www.tinycorelinux.com > which is a modular, low footprint system. Main goal is to have only really > necessary stuff used avoiding oversized giant softwares. LXDE is an ideal > fit and used by many users.
I'd like to know if there are any bug reports from your user community. The top one goal of pcmanfm 1.0 release is quality assurance. It must be stable enough for daily use. Otherwise there shouldn't be a stable release. I'll be strict this time. > 1) gvfs is not part of the base system. Its size is the same or more than > the complete system and do not add real benefits for average users. Loading > it just for PCManFM is a real pain. So I would appreciate not to have gvfs > just as an option when really needed. The dependency on gvfs is optional and you don't need it if you don't want. However, without gvfs, you'll lose volume management + automount + trash + access to all remote filesystems. Access to all local files is still working, so only volume management is lost when compared with the old 0.5 series. Since HAL is now deprecated, 0.5 series will stop working later. So basically the new one is not worse. But losing volume management is not acceptable by modern desktops. So, I still want to add udisks support to 1.0 to make volume management work without gvfs. Is this exception acceptible for 1.0 release? Dir tree is left for next major release. Anyways, I'm going to do it in development branch first. For remote filesystem access, actually we already started working on a lighter gvfs replacement. It's now a work in progress being developed by a developer from SuSE community and me. Later, maybe in one to two months, we might have the first working version as a proof of concept. Stay tunned please. > 2) What most people are asking for is volume management, more precisely > automatic mounting of removable media. On TC it is available with Xfce4 with > HAL, but really I do not want to go on with at all. Do not have experience > with udisks, but it seems to be usable now, so it is welcome. Yes, making this work is very important and this is one of the top FAQs. So I want to get this solved for 1.0. > 3) Tree view is nice to have, but not a real must True, but many people missed it. > > 4) Personally I do not use file search. There are many alternatives. As an > old fashioned developer, I'm using alway MC for such stuff :) I myself use find and grep most of the time. lol > Regards... Béla > > 2010.06.10. 6:45 keltezéssel, PCMan írta: >> >> Hi list, >> After observing the reaction of users to the new pcmanfm and gathering >> some feedback, I'm now thinking about the necessity to change goals >> for 1.0 release. >> The major problems encountered by most users seem to be: >> 1. They don't want gvfs, or if they use it outside gnome, it can be >> problematic sometimes. >> 2. Volume management doesn't work sometimes due to some unknown issue of >> gvfs. >> 3. Tree view in the side pane is not available. >> 4. File searching utility is gone. >> >> So, I'm considering if a revise for 1.0 plan is needed. It's stable in >> current status, but it's functionality doesn't match the older series. >> This make many people reluctant to upgrade. >> The proposed changes to 1.0 are: >> 1. To implement volume mounting wth udisks and don't completely rely >> on gvfs for this. >> This won't be too difficult and only requires some coding. This can >> make pcmanfm work well without gvfs, which solves #2 and partially >> solves #1. >> 2. Try to add support for tree view to side pane again. I already came >> up with a better way to implement it last week. So I'm confident that >> this can be done. >> 3. Leave search utility since it's a Google SoC project now and as the >> old one doesn't work correctly, leaving this won't affect much. >> 4. A developer from the community is trying to work on template >> support, so you can create new files based on some template files in >> the popup menu. It's still a work in progress, but since it's simple, >> can we include this in 1.0? >> >> I want to make an exception for the feature-freeze and add the missing >> features udisks and dir tree prior to 1.0. Then it's possible to >> totally replace the old pcmanfm with it. >> Of course we can do them in branch and leave 1.0 as it is now, but >> this may cause problems in promotion and since some old features are >> missing, replacing the old series can be more difficult. Missing >> features can give the new pcmanfm a bad name sometimes even its >> internal structure is much better than the old one. >> >> Any comments? >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> ThinkGeek and WIRED's GeekDad team up for the Ultimate >> GeekDad Father's Day Giveaway. ONE MASSIVE PRIZE to the >> lucky parental unit. 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