In my opinion, PCManFM is not for TinyCoreLinux. Rox filer does the job there or something even more lightweight (mc? cp?). PCManFM is on a bit higher level in my opinion where usability does matter. (Not just speed.)
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 9:33 AM, PCMan <[email protected]> wrote: > On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 2:42 PM, Bela Markus <[email protected]> wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I'm maintaining LXDE/PCManFM on Tiny Core Linux (TC), www.tinycorelinux.com >> which is a modular, low footprint system. Main goal is to have only really >> necessary stuff used avoiding oversized giant softwares. LXDE is an ideal >> fit and used by many users. > > I'd like to know if there are any bug reports from your user > community. The top one goal of pcmanfm 1.0 release is quality > assurance. It must be stable enough for daily use. Otherwise there > shouldn't be a stable release. I'll be strict this time. > >> 1) gvfs is not part of the base system. Its size is the same or more than >> the complete system and do not add real benefits for average users. Loading >> it just for PCManFM is a real pain. So I would appreciate not to have gvfs >> just as an option when really needed. > > The dependency on gvfs is optional and you don't need it if you don't want. > However, without gvfs, you'll lose volume management + automount + > trash + access to all remote filesystems. > Access to all local files is still working, so only volume management > is lost when compared with the old 0.5 series. > Since HAL is now deprecated, 0.5 series will stop working later. So > basically the new one is not worse. > But losing volume management is not acceptable by modern desktops. > So, I still want to add udisks support to 1.0 to make volume > management work without gvfs. > Is this exception acceptible for 1.0 release? Dir tree is left for > next major release. > Anyways, I'm going to do it in development branch first. > > For remote filesystem access, actually we already started working on a > lighter gvfs replacement. It's now a work in progress being developed > by a developer from SuSE community and me. Later, maybe in one to two > months, we might have the first working version as a proof of concept. > Stay tunned please. > >> 2) What most people are asking for is volume management, more precisely >> automatic mounting of removable media. On TC it is available with Xfce4 with >> HAL, but really I do not want to go on with at all. Do not have experience >> with udisks, but it seems to be usable now, so it is welcome. > Yes, making this work is very important and this is one of the top > FAQs. So I want to get this solved for 1.0. > >> 3) Tree view is nice to have, but not a real must > True, but many people missed it. >> >> 4) Personally I do not use file search. There are many alternatives. As an >> old fashioned developer, I'm using alway MC for such stuff :) > I myself use find and grep most of the time. lol > >> Regards... Béla >> >> 2010.06.10. 6:45 keltezéssel, PCMan írta: >>> >>> Hi list, >>> After observing the reaction of users to the new pcmanfm and gathering >>> some feedback, I'm now thinking about the necessity to change goals >>> for 1.0 release. >>> The major problems encountered by most users seem to be: >>> 1. They don't want gvfs, or if they use it outside gnome, it can be >>> problematic sometimes. >>> 2. Volume management doesn't work sometimes due to some unknown issue of >>> gvfs. >>> 3. Tree view in the side pane is not available. >>> 4. File searching utility is gone. >>> >>> So, I'm considering if a revise for 1.0 plan is needed. It's stable in >>> current status, but it's functionality doesn't match the older series. >>> This make many people reluctant to upgrade. >>> The proposed changes to 1.0 are: >>> 1. To implement volume mounting wth udisks and don't completely rely >>> on gvfs for this. >>> This won't be too difficult and only requires some coding. This can >>> make pcmanfm work well without gvfs, which solves #2 and partially >>> solves #1. >>> 2. Try to add support for tree view to side pane again. I already came >>> up with a better way to implement it last week. So I'm confident that >>> this can be done. >>> 3. Leave search utility since it's a Google SoC project now and as the >>> old one doesn't work correctly, leaving this won't affect much. >>> 4. A developer from the community is trying to work on template >>> support, so you can create new files based on some template files in >>> the popup menu. It's still a work in progress, but since it's simple, >>> can we include this in 1.0? >>> >>> I want to make an exception for the feature-freeze and add the missing >>> features udisks and dir tree prior to 1.0. Then it's possible to >>> totally replace the old pcmanfm with it. >>> Of course we can do them in branch and leave 1.0 as it is now, but >>> this may cause problems in promotion and since some old features are >>> missing, replacing the old series can be more difficult. Missing >>> features can give the new pcmanfm a bad name sometimes even its >>> internal structure is much better than the old one. >>> >>> Any comments? >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> ThinkGeek and WIRED's GeekDad team up for the Ultimate >>> GeekDad Father's Day Giveaway. ONE MASSIVE PRIZE to the >>> lucky parental unit. 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