* PCMan <pcman...@gmail.com> [2010-09-14 22:46]:
> On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 4:19 AM, Guido Berhoerster
> <guido+sourceforge....@berhoerster.name> wrote:
> > * PCMan <pcman...@gmail.com> [2010-09-14 15:48]:
> >> > No, running "gnome-screensaver-command -l" without
> >> > gnome-screensaver running will print
> >> > **Message: Screensaver is not running!
> >> > and return exit code 1.
> >> This is not the case on my box.
> >> It tried to launch gnome-screensaver even if this command failed.
> >> I'm using ubuntu 10.04.
> >>
> >> Please read the source code of gnome-screesaver-command.
> >> Is doesn't do what you said.
> >>
> >> http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-screensaver/tree/src/gnome-screensaver-command.c
> >>
> >> It exit with code 1 only when you pass wrong arguments, when dbus is
> >> not available, and when you query the version number.
> >> It return 0 even if gnome-screensaver is not running.
> >> The dbus call, however, will cause the gnome-screensaver service being 
> >> launched.
> >> I don't know the version of gnome-screensaver you're using, but from
> >> the latest code in git, it doesn't not work the way we want.
> >
> > I admit you are right on this one, the DBus autostart seems to
> > have been introduced in April:
> > http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-screensaver/commit/?id=47155576403fea9339a1f702e3dc63455b763fb8
> >
> > They more or less silently changed the behavior of
> > gnome-screensaver-command breaking shell scripts (including one
> > of mine for inhibiting the screensaver while running an
> > application) relying on the previous behavior which was modeled
> > after xscreensaver-command, just lovely.
> 
> Since they do things with the dirty way, here is a dirty solution I
> came up with.
> 
> dbus-send --session --type=method_call --print-reply
> --dest=org.freedesktop.DBus / org.freedesktop.DBus.NameHasOwner
> string:"org.gnome.ScreenSaver"
> 
> Maybe this command line can do the trick.

The problem is that dbus-send might not necessarily be installed
even when dbus itself is.

> > If someone has gnome-screensaver installed and is running another
> > screensaver I don't see any way to tell from a shellscript which
> > one to use now.  Looking for a process is just plainly broken and
> > unreliable by principle, e.g. someome might suspend before the
> > session has started gnome-screensaver, see
> > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=616225
> But this should be a rare case. Maybe we should ask gnome-screensaver
> developers how to solve this.

I think that is the proper solution.

-- 
Guido Berhoerster

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