On Wed, 21 Nov 2012 01:46:50 +0200
"Andrej N. Gritsenko" <[email protected]> wrote:

>     Hello!
> 
> JM has written on Wednesday, 21 November, at  0:12:
> >On Wed, 21 Nov 2012 00:39:27 +0200
> >"Andrej N. Gritsenko" <[email protected]> wrote:
> [.......]
> >> none of them give any help. I would like to add someting into 1.2 for
> >> such purpose but I don't know the best expectation for it, i.e. how to
> >> implement it. There are few questions coming:
> >> a) where in context menu should be new option?
> >> b) what the option it should be? 'Format volume'? 'Volume properties'?
> >> c) what application should serve that option?
> >> d) how to define that application?
> 
> >I have had to do that lately for someone else's camera, so I inserted the 
> >flash card
> >into a card reader connected to my box through USB.
> 
> >If you can do the same, then  open Gparted, look at the right corner of the 
> >window,
> >choose the flash drive disk (it's a drop down menu where you should see 
> >something such
> >as "/dev/sd<something" : be careful, all storage peripherals are shown there,
> >including your hard drive... ) and then erase the drive, apply, add new, and 
> >format it
> >to Fat16. This is the format needed for these cards.
> 
>     I understand it. GParted is for experienced users and I would rather
> do manual formatting instead of 'sudo gparted' for such trivial operation
> but I'm talking about very unexperienced users. There is an alternative
> for GParted, it's GDU, which doesn't ask you to start it under root and I
> hope it may be more useful for users: they have write rights to USB drive
> but not to system one so will not accidentally break own system. In any
> case, it should be available from a computer:// folder for unexperienced
> users directly without searching for it via start menu so what I asked
> you is how to help someone who doesn't know much about unixes (imagine
> all new users who freshly came from Windows world for example). We should
> help them. Do you have any ideas how to organize it properly? Thank you
> in advance.
> 
>     Andriy.
> 
> P.S. BTW, I suppose FAT16 isn't appropriate for 8GB drives, it may not
> always work, FAT32 seems more fit for them.

You said:
"    Today my niece got into problem. Flash card on their videocamera
showed free 9MB of 8GB while every file was deleted. Obvious thought is
to re-format it. But how to do it? "

therefore I didn't suppose you were talking about making it a userland feature. 
I don't
know how to create a custom action in pcmanfm, or in any file manager either by 
the way.

But I know that when you start Gparted (don't use sudo, it is a pkexec command, 
so you
should be prompted for the root password just by starting it from menus and if 
it does
not, then type "gksu gparted", and avoid using "sudo" for gui applications) so 
when you
start Gparted, there is not a tool as easy as this one and as secure to manage 
any storage
device. One, it will not let you format a mounted drive. Two, everything is 
very clear in
the menus, three it always performs a test before doing the formatting, so if 
something
is not ok it will not format a drive.

If your idea would be to create actions such as what is implemented in Windows 
where it
is easy to reformat a drive the way you describe it, well, so be it. Just don't 
forget
that in Windows the default is to be logged in as administrator, without a 
password.

Gparted documentation, howto's are here, with screenshots:
http://gparted.sourceforge.net/help.php

Mélodie

PS: I think FAT16 is what these devices request because I did a search about 
that the
other day, but you can also do a search on the web about it to ensure using the 
best
choice.



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