Hello!
Kevin Krammer has written on Saturday, 10 August, at 20:04:
>On Saturday, 2013-08-10, Andrej N. Gritsenko wrote:
>> Kevin Krammer has written on Saturday, 10 August, at 19:16:
>> >On Saturday, 2013-08-10, Andrej N. Gritsenko wrote:
>> >> Stephan Sokolow has written on Saturday, 10 August, at 11:22:
>> >> >I've gone as far as completely avoiding applications which offer only
>> >> >AppIndicator-based tray icons because I refuse to double the number of
>> >> >clicks and throw in some precision mouse movement in order to show/hide
>> >> >an application's main window. (Especially if I just want to peek at its
>> >> >status without having said status visible during times when I'm
>> >> >vulnerable to distraction.)
>> >> Another annoying thing of AppIndicator-based tray icons is that they
>> >> never show tooltips and to see status I should click it and then click
>> >> again to hide status, and for "usual left-click or right-click" actions
>> >> I should select option in menu below the status and click it.
>> >Wouldn't a visualization like that be up to the host?
>> >I.e. the LXDE-Qt panel or tray implementation?
>> Exactly, it is tray implementation which gives API for plugins. And
>> since gnome-shell tray doesn't offer such API, plugin has no possibility
>> to implement it. Therefore even if those plugins started in another tray
>> they still don't support it.
>Right, but in the context of LXDE/Razor this is of no consequence, because
>those are the hosts.
>The applications offer functionality and visualization data and the hosts
>decide how to present that data and trigger functionality so that it fits into
>the host's overall design concepts.
>So even if the application does not explicitly set any tooltip information a
>host implementation could still show other things like icon, application name
>and status in a tooltip.
>Or maybe I am misunderstanding your concern. Are the LXDE or Razor systrays
>currently not showing any tooltips?
I believe their panels show them just fine. I've just added my $.02
about AppIndicator applets - they are uneasy to use because they require
a lot of extra clicks, as Stephan Sokolow noticed. And I'm not sure if it
possible to extract status from AppIndicator applet until you click on
it, so only thing which our tray may show in tooltip is application name
which is not very useful unfortunately. It's why I'm rather avoiding any
AppIndicator applets. And I still believe desktop and tablet environments
should be different in usability. Gnome/Unity/Win8 don't agree with me,
you know.
Cheers!
Andriy.
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