On 13-08-11 06:25 AM, Kevin Krammer wrote:
> I see.
> I guess there is very little point in using a wrapper library written for a
> different tool stack, basically using an abstraction that can easily be
> achieved directly using the tools at hand (qdbusxml2cpp).
 >
 > [...]
 >
> Sure, but it is always the responsibility of an application developer to chose
> libraries based on their capabilities. If a library only implements a subset
> of a given spec and the application developer wants to have all options
> available the developer will simply not use that particular implementation.
>
> I don't see a chicken-and-egg problem there. Applications that want to offer
> full capabilties for hosts that make use of all capabilities will just do
> that.
> A host implementor who wants to provide all capabilities will to just that
> independent of whether some applications only use a subset.
>

I'm more concerned about application developers either mistakenly 
resigning themselves to a crippled API because they don't know or 
choosing it because they don't want to screw around with reinventing 
libappindicator for their GTK+ app.

For example, I use Deluge as my torrent client but I use their legacy 
tray icon support because their libindicator support seems to only 
provide a context menu. Not all developers maintain a legacy-mode toggle.

>> The reason I asked about the KDE one is that KDE is a big enough target
>> that, if they offer an alternative with a richer API, then there's hope
>> that it could gain enough inertia to catch on as the de facto standard
>> apps support if available.
>
> Right. I don't know if it is an extension or already part of the
> specification.
> It looked like part of the normal interface to me.
>

I looked into it a bit and it seems that listening to scroll events and 
binding a secondary action ARE supported by libappindicator... the 
problem is that libappindicator's API docs claim that it will enforce 
that the primary action is a GtkMenu and will only activate the 
GtkWidget passed as the secondary action when it's present as a 
non-hidden, non-inactive entry within that menu.

>
> Cheers,
> Kevin
>


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