On 13-12-30 11:29 AM, Stephan Sokolow wrote: > In traditional applications, both "File" and "Edit" refer to the current > document
I should probably clarify this slightly. Here are the classic "original" menus, in their original order, and with their original meanings: File - Operations which change the meaning of "current document" (new/open/close) or, in something which operates on an in-memory working copy, operations which cause interaction with other media/devices (open/save/print/send to iPod/etc.) Edit - Operations which operate on the contents of the "current document". In traditional applications, everything in this menu operates exclusively on the in-memory working copy until saved/printed/exported/etc. View - Operations which alter the way in which the application presents its UI and the "current document" contents. (toolbar controls, view mode, etc.) [Additional menus would be added here in the sequence] Tools (or, sometimes, "Options") - This is where you put "embedded utilities" like spell-checking and the application's preferences panel and integration for external utilities. Window - All functionality necessary to implement workarounds for weak window management in an application with an MDI (Multiple Document Interface)-based GUI like Word or Photoshop. (In other words, proprietary shortcuts for opening, closing, and navigating between windows within a single application) Help - All documentation and related "help" functionality other than tooltips. Online manual, release notes, about dialog, license, credits, feedback dialog, "enter troubleshooting mode" trigger, "enter context help mode" trigger, etc. > > (Which is why I think it's incredibly stupid of the GNOME devs to try to > convince everyone to put application-wide Preferences there. They're > letting the literal meaning of the menu's title blind them to the > underlying concept which it's supposed to represent.) > > As for the File menu, that's for creating/opening/closing documents (in > the case of a file manager, tabs, windows, or blank files). Putting a > search function in there makes about as much sense as putting it under > View because you want to "View" the results of your search or putting it > under "Go" because you'll probably want to go to one of the results > after you find it. > > If it's the sparseness of the Tools menu that you're concerned about, > why not allow users to add custom entries to it? > > On 13-12-30 10:39 AM, Andrej N. Gritsenko wrote: >> Hello! >> >> What do you think, where "Find Files..." belongs to - the File menu >> or the Edit menu? Search usually is in Edit menu but search in pcmanfm >> opens new window/tab with search results so probably it should be in the >> File menu instead? I would like to know your opinions on that. >> >> Thanks in advance. >> Andriy. >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT >> organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance >> affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your >> Java,.NET, & PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics >> Pro! >> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349831&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT > organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance > affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your > Java,.NET, & PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics Pro! > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349831&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your Java,.NET, & PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics Pro! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349831&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk _______________________________________________ Lxde-list mailing list Lxde-list@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lxde-list