On 13-12-30 11:29 AM, Stephan Sokolow wrote:
> In traditional applications, both "File" and "Edit" refer to the current
> document

I should probably clarify this slightly. Here are the classic "original" 
menus, in their original order, and with their original meanings:

File - Operations which change the meaning of "current document" 
(new/open/close) or, in something which operates on an in-memory working 
copy, operations which cause interaction with other media/devices 
(open/save/print/send to iPod/etc.)

Edit - Operations which operate on the contents of the "current 
document". In traditional applications, everything in this menu operates 
exclusively on the in-memory working copy until saved/printed/exported/etc.

View - Operations which alter the way in which the application presents 
its UI and the "current document" contents. (toolbar controls, view 
mode, etc.)

[Additional menus would be added here in the sequence]

Tools (or, sometimes, "Options") - This is where you put "embedded 
utilities" like spell-checking and the application's preferences panel 
and integration for external utilities.

Window - All functionality necessary to implement workarounds for weak 
window management in an application with an MDI (Multiple Document 
Interface)-based GUI like Word or Photoshop. (In other words, 
proprietary shortcuts for opening, closing, and navigating between 
windows within a single application)

Help - All documentation and related "help" functionality other than 
tooltips. Online manual, release notes, about dialog, license, credits, 
feedback dialog, "enter troubleshooting mode" trigger, "enter context 
help mode" trigger, etc.

>
> (Which is why I think it's incredibly stupid of the GNOME devs to try to
> convince everyone to put application-wide Preferences there. They're
> letting the literal meaning of the menu's title blind them to the
> underlying concept which it's supposed to represent.)
>
> As for the File menu, that's for creating/opening/closing documents (in
> the case of a file manager, tabs, windows, or blank files). Putting a
> search function in there makes about as much sense as putting it under
> View because you want to "View" the results of your search or putting it
> under "Go" because you'll probably want to go to one of the results
> after you find it.
>
> If it's the sparseness of the Tools menu that you're concerned about,
> why not allow users to add custom entries to it?
>
> On 13-12-30 10:39 AM, Andrej N. Gritsenko wrote:
>>       Hello!
>>
>>       What do you think, where "Find Files..." belongs to - the File menu
>> or the Edit menu? Search usually is in Edit menu but search in pcmanfm
>> opens new window/tab with search results so probably it should be in the
>> File menu instead? I would like to know your opinions on that.
>>
>>       Thanks in advance.
>>       Andriy.
>>
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