Karen, It's not just you. I've run into this cloudflare thing on other
sites. I've even jumped through the hoops to get the accessibility
cookie, and I still get hit with their captcha at times, so the cookie
is no guarantee of access, no matter what they claim to the contrary. I
understand they provide a service many small hosts can't financially
handle on their own, but honestly, I don't understand why they work so
hard to make problems for users. Sites are supposed to be browser
neutral, and cloudflare takes what might actually be a browser neutral
site, and turns it into something that isn't at all what the site
designers built, and that doesn't make for good business practices.
It's probably a useless thought, but have you tried getting ahold of
someone from fanfiction.net to see if they have any suggestions? It's
possible (though not likely) they could provide you an IP address of a
server that isn't run through cloudflare.
On 6/25/2021 12:35 AM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
Interestingly enough I do know there are settings in cloudflare that
can allow lynx to work..a few sites I visit use cloudflare, but lynx
is not blocked. even edbrowse cannot get past the fanfiction.net door,
and its use of JavaScript is more current then links the chain and
e-links, neither of which work.
Fanfiction.net itself does not require JavaScript, I honestly wish I
could reach the owner and share cloudflare suggestions that still keep
them safe, but open the door.
Your fanfiction server idea sounds like hacking, would not let me use
my years worth of bookmarks again, and as you say produces a lesser
result.
In fact I wonder if that is how fanfiction.ws was working until the
main site shut it down.
Do not even get me started on the real problem where the captcha is
concerned, hcaptcha which is the service cloudflare is using that gets
run into with lynx.
Hcaptcha claims they want to be accessible, had a heated discussion
with the
staff a few weeks back. Their own site requires JavaScript to get
the accessible cookies, which is counterproductive.
Karen
On Thu, 24 Jun 2021, Travis Siegel wrote:
fanfiction.net is using cloudflare to help distribute the load of web
requests. Cloudflare apparently requires javascript, cookies, and
something in the browser string that identifies the browser as a
standard browser. Two of those you can fix with lynx, but you're
never going to solve the javascript issue just using lynx. I've not
tried hitting fanfiction.net using one of the various encarnations
that can handle javascript, it may or may not work. I also haven't
tried changing my identification string, though I doubt highly that
will solve the problem. I'm guessing that if you could find the ip
address of the fanfiction.net actual servers, and not the cloudflare
servers they use to spread the workload, then you could bypass all
these checks, and then the site may or may not work properly, but at
least then you'd have a fighting chance. I'm not convinced cloudflare
will let lynx through no matter what you do try to get around it.
On 6/24/2021 6:31 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
Do you mind testing that by visiting
Www.fanfiction.net
Since you say you can browse everywhere?
On Thu, 24 Jun 2021, Stef Caunter wrote:
> I can browse anywhere using this alias for 'lynx'
> > alias lynx='/usr/local/bin/lynx -nopause -tna -useragent=IE . '
> > "IE" seems to be the most innocuous choice for the major news
sites. I
> have not tried "googlebot" ;)
> > /stef
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