Travis
I am going to write you privately for help with a test.
as for reaching anyone at fanfiction.net, Here is what I was told to do,
since they only read their twitter feed.
Someone suggested sending copies of the messed up captcha to them over and
over and over again. It got their attention once for a mac user, who was
getting the same cloudflare barrier, in safari no less.
Thing is, I am not on twitter.
Anyone here a member?
Karen
On Fri, 25 Jun 2021, Travis Siegel wrote:
Karen, It's not just you. I've run into this cloudflare thing on other
sites. I've even jumped through the hoops to get the accessibility cookie,
and I still get hit with their captcha at times, so the cookie is no
guarantee of access, no matter what they claim to the contrary. I
understand they provide a service many small hosts can't financially handle
on their own, but honestly, I don't understand why they work so hard to make
problems for users. Sites are supposed to be browser neutral, and
cloudflare takes what might actually be a browser neutral site, and turns it
into something that isn't at all what the site designers built, and that
doesn't make for good business practices. It's probably a useless thought,
but have you tried getting ahold of someone from fanfiction.net to see if
they have any suggestions? It's possible (though not likely) they could
provide you an IP address of a server that isn't run through cloudflare.
On 6/25/2021 12:35 AM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
Interestingly enough I do know there are settings in cloudflare that can
allow lynx to work..a few sites I visit use cloudflare, but lynx is not
blocked. even edbrowse cannot get past the fanfiction.net door, and its
use of JavaScript is more current then links the chain and e-links,
neither of which work.
Fanfiction.net itself does not require JavaScript, I honestly wish I could
reach the owner and share cloudflare suggestions that still keep them
safe, but open the door.
Your fanfiction server idea sounds like hacking, would not let me use my
years worth of bookmarks again, and as you say produces a lesser result.
In fact I wonder if that is how fanfiction.ws was working until the main
site shut it down.
Do not even get me started on the real problem where the captcha is
concerned, hcaptcha which is the service cloudflare is using that gets run
into with lynx.
Hcaptcha claims they want to be accessible, had a heated discussion with
the
staff a few weeks back. Their own site requires JavaScript to get
the accessible cookies, which is counterproductive.
Karen
On Thu, 24 Jun 2021, Travis Siegel wrote:
> fanfiction.net is using cloudflare to help distribute the load of web
> requests. Cloudflare apparently requires javascript, cookies, and
> something in the browser string that identifies the browser as a
> standard browser. Two of those you can fix with lynx, but you're never
> going to solve the javascript issue just using lynx. I've not tried
> hitting fanfiction.net using one of the various encarnations that can
> handle javascript, it may or may not work. I also haven't tried changing
> my identification string, though I doubt highly that will solve the
> problem. I'm guessing that if you could find the ip address of the
> fanfiction.net actual servers, and not the cloudflare servers they use
> to spread the workload, then you could bypass all these checks, and then
> the site may or may not work properly, but at least then you'd have a
> fighting chance. I'm not convinced cloudflare will let lynx through no
> matter what you do try to get around it.
>
>
> On 6/24/2021 6:31 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
> > Do you mind testing that by visiting
> > Www.fanfiction.net
> > Since you say you can browse everywhere?
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 24 Jun 2021, Stef Caunter wrote:
> >
> > > I can browse anywhere using this alias for 'lynx'
> > > > alias lynx='/usr/local/bin/lynx -nopause -tna -useragent=IE . '
> > > > "IE" seems to be the most innocuous choice for the major news
> > sites. I
> > > have not tried "googlebot" ;)
> > > > /stef
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