On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 10:41 PM, Joel Kulesza <jkule...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 10:40 PM, Joel Kulesza <jkule...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 3:11 PM, Stephan Witt <st.w...@gmx.net> wrote: >> >>> Am 14.03.2018 um 21:54 schrieb list_em...@icloud.com: >>> > >>> > >>> >> On Mar 14, 2018, at 6:17 AM, Joel Kulesza <jkule...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 4:00 AM, <list_em...@icloud.com> wrote: >>> >>> I’m confused. Is it working for you or not? >>> >> >>> >> It does not work insofar as nothing happens other than Skim opening >>> with the PDF when I click the preview eyeballs. It doesn't move the >>> document to a particular point nor display the type of markup you described. >>> >> >>> >> I'll respond later in detail to Stephan's post regarding what I did >>> to set it up and what I ultimately experience (in both 2.2.3 and 2.3.0). >>> >> >>> > >>> > OK. I have egg on my face. (I don’t know if that translates into your >>> slang. 8^) First, I was not receiving all the list mail, only yours. I just >>> now fixed my list subscription. Second and more important, as told in >>> Stephan’s note, I did not have the document setting for “Synchronize with >>> output” turned on. >>> >>> To be honest - it was Pavel who mentioned it first. I’ve luckily >>> repeated this to make a self contained recipe. :) >>> >>> > I guess I didn’t realize that setting was per-document. SORRY >>> everyone. With that turned on, syncing is working. The only problem that I >>> see is that with reverse search, the Skim document window is not brought to >>> the front—but the scrolling and highlighting does happen. Not sure that’s a >>> LyX problem though—could be the OS or Skim not sending the right >>> (Applescipt?) command. >>> >>> You want LyX front-most when doing the Command-Shift click in Skim? I >>> think this may be a legal enhancement request for LyX. >>> >>> The work-around is to add custom arguments in Skim (I’ve grabbed it from >>> LyX wiki): >>> >>> For standard LyX enter: >>> "%file" %line ; /usr/bin/osascript -e 'tell application "LyX" to >>> activate' >>> >>> For custom command e.g.: >>> /path/to/LyX.app/Contents/MacOS/lyxeditor "%file" %line ; >>> /usr/bin/osascript -e 'tell application "LyX" to activate‘ >>> >>> Stephan >>> >>> > Still, though, I first tested with the default document when selecting >>> File -> New which is “Article (Standard Class)” and the “Synchronize with >>> output” setting is already checked, by default. My mistake then I suppose >>> was assuming that this would then happen with the IEEE template but that is >>> a bad assumption. >>> > >>> > Sorry again for the hassle and thanks as usual for all the friendly >>> help. >>> > >>> > Jerry >>> > >>> >> >> My experiences and thoughts after experimenting with this: >> >> - I've tried to configure forward/reverse search with LyX+Skim (LyX >> installed from lyx.org and Skim installed via brew cask install) on >> two separate machines using 2.3.0rc2. I've gotten only reverse searching >> working. I do not have anything that indicates that forward searching is >> functional. Can someone please post a screencast showing what correct >> forward search looks like so I know what to look for? >> - On one machine that reverse search works, both LyX and Skim are >> installed to /Applications. On the other, they are installed to /local. >> For the /local installations, I had to use a custom Skim preference >> providing the full path to lyxeditor and the osascript append that Stephan >> copied from the wiki to get reverse search working. >> - Jerry noted that he overlooked the fact that PDF synchronization is >> per document. I admit that I also overlooked this for some time. One >> possible reason: I think the WIki page at https://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/Sy >> ncTeX has this step mislabeled. It says "Document > Settings > Output >> ", which I mistook for LyX>Preferences>Output rather than >> Document>Settings>Formats. If folks agree that the Wiki is mislabeled, I >> can correct this. However, perhaps someone with working forward and >> reverse searching can create a formulaic write-up giving the steps >> necessary to setup LyX from a fresh install and a document without >> synchronization enabled. It would be helpful (to me, at least) if the >> write-up gave absolute paths/caveats for non-standard LyX and Skim (or >> other viewer) locations. >> >> The steps I used to configure the two applications are as follows (note >> that I totally removed LyX 2.3.0rc2 and Skim.app and the associated >> preferences (~/Library/Application Support/LyX-2.3 and >> ~/Library/Preferences/net.sourceforge.skim-app*) before proceeding. >> Please let me know what step is incorrect or missing to get synchronization >> / forward search working. >> >> 1. Install LyX 2.3.0rc2 from UCSD mirror ( >> ftp://ftp.ucsd.edu/LyX/devel/lyx-2.3/lyx-2.3.0rc2/LyX-2.3.0 >> rc2+qt5-x86_64-cocoa.dmg >> >> <ftp://ftp.ucsd.edu/LyX/devel/lyx-2.3/lyx-2.3.0rc2/LyX-2.3.0rc2+qt5-x86_64-cocoa.dmg>) >> to /Applications/LyX.app. Note that I ultimately want to *not* have LyX in >> /Applications because I cannot have it so at my office. >> 2. Install Skim via `brew cask install skim` to >> /Applications/Skim.app (version 1.4.32 installed). Note that I >> ultimately want to *not* have Skim in /Applications because I cannot have >> it so at my office. >> 3. Launch LyX for the first time to initiate first-time configure. >> Quit. >> 4. Launch LyX and create a lengthy document. I used the attached, >> with 10 sections each with 5 loren ipsum paragraphs explicitly included in >> each section. >> 5. Set LyX>Preferences>Output>General>PDF Command to >> "/Applications/Skim.app/Contents/SharedSupport/displayline $$n $$o >> $$t" (default for Skim). Apply. >> 6. Set LyX>Preferences>File Handling>File Formats>Format: PDF >> (pdflatex) Viewer> Custom with "open -a Skim.app $$i". Apply. Save. >> 7. Set Document>Settings>Formats>Synchronize with output>Checked. OK. >> Save document. >> 8. Preview with eyeballs. Skim opens with the document at the >> beginning. >> 9. Set Skim>Preferences>Sync>Preset: LyX. Close preferences with red >> circle/"x" (there is no save, apply, etc.). >> 10. Quit LyX and Skim. >> 11. Relaunch LyX, reopen skim_test.lyx, preview with eyeballs. Skim >> opens it at the beginning of the document regardless of where my cursor in >> LyX is. However, reverse search (command-shift-click seeks LyX to the >> clicked element, within reason). >> >> Any thoughts are appreciated. I've worked for some time without this >> capability, but I can certainly appreciate how it would be helpful. >> >> Thanks, >> Joel >> > Did anyone have thoughts on these varying degrees of success in getting forward and reverse search to work on OS X with Skim (particularly, how to get forward and reverse search both working)? Thank you, Joel
