>>>>> "Stephen" == Stephen Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Stephen> I will add pdfview.cmd to the Wiki (from missing file post).

Thanks. Fell free to change the wiki as you see fit. It is yours too,
after all :)

Stephen> I am quite pleased with the official native Windows port of
Stephen> LyX. When I saw the screenshots of the change tracking
Stephen> support (dvipost) I became worried that Windows might be left
Stephen> behind in 1.4 and the screenshots look pretty good.

We have made a big effort on windows now that we can distribute it
legally (this is why ruurd's port was not distributed by us).

Stephen> Acrobat Writer Pro allows the author to save a .pdf file so
Stephen> that a colleague can add comments using only the free Acrobat
Stephen> Reader. MS Word also has change tracking but but is expensive
Stephen> like Pro. Perhaps I should only say they can add impermanent
Stephen> text.

I see what you mean.

Stephen> I meant "collaborative' in the sense of more than one person
Stephen> working together on a paper, for example, and I meant change
Stephen> tracking with the means to make annotative comments. I
Stephen> suppose change tracking has more consequences than this so
Stephen> was not identifiable with what I wrote.

Change tracking indeed goes farther. It would be imaginale to be able
to save a LyX file in some locked-down mode where only inserting
comments is possible. 

Stephen> Suppose there is a graduate student writing a thesis and who
Stephen> is submitting his/her paper to 3 advisors for comment.
Stephen> Perhaps the student doesn't want his content directly edited.

With change tracking, he can review the changes and decide whether to
keep them or not.

Stephen> Maybe everyone involved doesn't have LyX or *TeX installed on
Stephen> their machines, it could be just the file originator. 

This is the main problem of course. But then we go out of what LyX can
do for you.

Stephen> But lots of academic people have ghostscript, and if they
Stephen> don't it is a much smaller install than *Tex.

Like Christian said, acroread is a safer bet.

Stephen> Maybe what I have in mind is restricted in comparison to
Stephen> corporate document tracking with a lot of authors.
Stephen> Collaborating to me means contributing in an effort but not
Stephen> necessarily with the right to emend the original document,
Stephen> but to add erasable advice within the doc.

Yes, that's not really collaborative (since all the people are not
equal in the effort), but this is needed.

Stephen> I built the fl*ed.exe with plain ./configure using
Stephen> Msys/Mingw. Fltk also is cross-platform and built with just
Stephen> ./configure. The package I used which had a Makefile and some
Stephen> odds and ends was 19k. The Makefile is cross-platform, OSX,
Stephen> Linux and Windows XP. The .exe does not have full
Stephen> functionality compared to Linux yet, such as
Stephen> importing/exporting pdf and zoom. It also might die at this
Stephen> stage.

You may want to create a page about that on the wiki.

Stephen> I do not have your expertise nor your knowledge of the future
Stephen> of LyX. 

But we need input to know what this future can be.

Stephen> So maybe concerning myself with Windows 1.4 Lyx change
Stephen> tracking or a more limited annotative functionality was just
Stephen> none of my business and also you may be aware of gaps in my
Stephen> thinking.

Of course it is your business! Re-reading my answer, I see that the
tone could be seen as a bit aggressive. This was not the intent; my
problem was that I did not understand the relation with LyX. It is
much clearer now.

JMarc






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