"Jean-Pierre.Chretien" wrote:

> >>Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 21:12:50 +0100
> >>From: Nemeth Miklos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>To: "Jean-Pierre.Chretien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>Subject: Re: LyX: Using GIF Images?
> >>
> >>Do not try to cheat ourselves! LyX's support and also LaTeX's to GIF, JPEG,
> >>PNG, etc is very poor.
>
> I understand your particular concern, but I think that mixing
> in the same line GIF, JPEG and PNG is a bit misleading.
>
> What is important is to know wether the original image
> is vectorized or bitmapped. If the original image is vectorized,
> AND if it is possible to create a vectorized eps format, there
> will not be any problem with LyX/LaTeX and with transcoding
> towards network-oriented compressed formats like GIF and PNG.
>
> IF the original image is bitmapped, bitmapped eps becomes less powerful
> than other formats in the case of vector-like pictures because resizing
> is very poor. It works correctly with real pictures from my experience.
> So in the case of bitmapped versions of vectorized images
> (i.e., when there exists no way to keep with a vectorized version)
> I think that no resizing should take place after conversion towrds PS.
> Moreover, and unless I have a poor installation of the package, it seems that
> ImageMagick knows only about bitmapped versions of eps (e.g. conversion
> betweeen ps/eps formats using convert looses the vectorized property)
> so I stich to GS utilities for these.
>

What I'd like to have is. When I get a GIF image it has a default size
which
looks very nice on screen.
When I create a screenshot and save it as GIF and later show it in a
HTML
document it appears very butifully.
Even when I print a HTML document containing a GIF the result is
perfect.
I used GIMP to convert GIFs to EPS and/or PS but the result was always
ugly. I
tried ImageMagics with the same result.
After all I gave up.
For me it is completely unimportant what is the image format, I want
perfect
result.
I do not understand why EPS and PS image formats are used at all by
LyX/LaTeX,
they are very big (I mean in size)
there are no tools to convert the now standard GIF, JPEG, PNG images to
these
obsolete formats.

>
> I have no experience with pdflatex hoevewer, waht are the odds and ends
> from your experience ?

With pdflatex I managed to create a kind of slide show document (A5
landscape)
presented in Acrobat Reader full-screen mode.
Pdflatex has also problems with images. It also is not be able to
calculate the
default size.
Until there is no a tool to create acceptable EPS or PS images, the only
solution is to use HTML.
I'd be one of the happies man if I found LyX/LaTeX solution to my image
problems.

> I currenly use ps2pdf to get the pdf version.
> This is successful with portrait layout, but I still don't understand how
> to get landscape orientation on the screen on Sun/Solaris.
> That's boring because I would like to convince people that
> Lyx/LaTeX allows to generate a sequence of viewgraphs which can be
> presented full screen, and I tried to use pdf reader to impment that
> functionality.
>
> Regards
>
> --
> Jean-Pierre

Anyway, excuse me if my previous posting appeared on the list, this was
a
technical fault of me.

NM

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