I appreciate your comments. I'm not that exerienced a LyX user, but must say I find the table functions very cumbersome and generally not quite sufficient. Actually I've been here before about a year ago, (needed the dynamic referencing), but abandoned it because of the table insufficiencies.
I think I might just prefer to create tables in OOo, Scribus or somewhere else and export as an image file to be included in the LyX. I'm not slagging LyX in general and I realise, that complicated formating of tables is not really the main objective of LyX/Latex, but it certainly is the one issue that keeps popping up as a problem for me. Soren On Thursday 04 August 2005 18:47, samar wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Geoffrey Lloyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]>; "Herbert Voss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 9:33 PM > Subject: Re: weird table problems in Lyx > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Herbert Voss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 4:42 PM > > Subject: Re: weird table problems in Lyx > > > >> Geoffrey Lloyd wrote: > >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stacia Hartleben" > >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> To: <[email protected]> > >>> Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 3:18 PM > >>> Subject: weird table problems in Lyx > >>> > >>> > >>> I'm not sure if I'm doing something wrong, but most times when I make > >>> a table, the first row of the table is seperate than the others. I can > >>> get around this by deleting and inserting more rows, but it's a pain. > >>> What am I doing wrong? Also, is there an easy way to set the lines of > >>> the table to not show up? I can do it per row or cell but I don't know > >>> if there's an easy way to fix the whole table. > >>> ------------------------ > >>> > >>> You aren't doing anything wrong that is just the way Lyx draws tables > >>> on the screen and annoyingly in the output. > >>> > >>> As for the cell borders, you have to do them one by one. > >> > >> really nonsense. > >> - Mark all cells of the table > >> - right mouseclick with cursor inside the table > >> - in the tab menu option border > >> - clear all > > > > This is not something I was aware of and apologise for incorrect > > information. > > > >>> Basically table support in Lyx is one of its failings. > >> > >> read the docs, then it is easier ... ;-) > > > > I have and even in the docs it is admitted that Lyx support of tables is > > not very good. This is a well known fact and many people on this list > > have spent hours trying to get tables the way they want them to look in > > Lyx with little success. Latex itself is not 'naturally' good at tabular > > stuff and needs many extra packages to do things properly. > > > >>> Sorry not to be anymore help - that said if you use Windows, you can > >>> always make pretty tables in Excel and import them into lyx. > >> > >> a crazy way of creating tables ... > > > > This is not crazy if it gets what you want quickly. I can do all my data > > analysis in Excel and then export the table into Lyx. Firstly I can have > > great control over borders and centring and mulitcolumns etc and secondly > > I don't have to labouriously re-enter my data. > > > > I don't usually react to such open criticism of an idea but we aren't all > > experts and surely the point of software is to produce what you want in > > the best possible way for you. I could spend all day mastering tables in > > Lyx (or more like a few weeks!) but instead I use something I know that > > produces output that looks good in a fraction of the time - where is the > > crazy in that. It maybe that Stacia would find my method quick and > > acceptable yet you have now dismissed it out of hand. > > > > Geoff > > Just to get a different perspective into this argument, I use tables quite > a lot in Lyx on Linux, > and actually find this is one of the more attractive points of Lyx. One of > the ancillary benefits is that I sometimes tend to use it as a general > purpose tool for formatting tabular content by removing all the boxes and > letting the text stand by itself after it has been properly set up in Lyx. > > I would say that one of the reasons one does not tend to look at the > documentation in Lyx is because most things are pretty self evident. In > some cases, perhaps one should, but the Lyx list is often an easier > alternative. All in all, most peoplen probably have their own particular > mix of helpful alternatives which are tailored to their requirement. > > In summary, users such as myself would not really like to see much change > in the ease with which Lyx allows tables to be created. However, > enhancement is always welcome. > > regards > > samar -- Soren O'Neill, kiropraktor, MSc, klinisk lektor Rygambulatoriet, Sygehus Fyn Lindevej 5, 5750 Ringe [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.dskkb.dk tlf. 6362 1906 (arb.)
