I think that my point was lost in the analogy... My point about the calligraphy was that I've taken the time to really learn what makes a beautiful document from the study of classical texts and manuscripts that are the foundation of the modern typographical rules that govern professional publication. Most people just figure that they can learn as they go what makes a good looking document, which is why allowing access the the ability to create style files easily is a bad idea. If you don't know what makes a document beautiful, the you shouldn't be allowed to create a new style. As to Steve's intent, from what I gather, he feels that the problem with Word and the like is the software itself. The software, while inferior to LaTeX based publishing methods in every way, is a valid form of publishing. If someone has the training to properly create a document then the results can be quite acceptable. The problem is not with the software, it is with inexperienced people thinking that they can make professional quality documents without putting in the time to understand what a "professional quality" document really means. This lack of education in the general public to publishing standards is the root of my argument against making the creation of styles easier. If they don't have to take the journey to understand what has gone before then they will never learn why things are the way they are. I feel that the "coding" requirement for creation of a new style is a good and effective deterrent from letting just anyone get at that vital portion of the LaTeX code.

Mike Anderson

On Jul 9, 2007, at 2:47 PM, Mael Hilléreau wrote:

Le 9 juil. 07 à 21:33, Michael Anderson a écrit :

I'd just like to say a few words on this topic.

I really can't see why you would want to reduce LaTeX or LyX to a competitor to Word.

I completely agree with this point of view: LyX use is by essence different from Word use. However, ...

I too have done self-publishing, but before I did I spent years studying proper page layout and construction as a calligrapher.

Perhaps, what Steve also wants to say is that a good calligrapher isn't necessarily a good TeX/LaTeX coder. Don't you think? In this perspective, a GUI would allow non coders to write layouts (and could also make life easier to coders...). Currently, coders are able to write layouts, which doesn't guarantee that they're good calligraphers.

However, as such a GUI would be intended for calligraphers, it should be kept outside of LyX, IMO.

Mael.



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