On Tuesday 06 October 2009 10:20:19 am jezZiFeR wrote:
> Dear Stefano, dear list,
>
> thanks again!
>
> > Question: is what you just described the behavior you want?
>
> In one case it is ("hier S. xxx)… in the other, without the "hier" it
> is not the behaviour I want. I have tried out some more references
> now, and in some cases it works, and the "hier…" is added, in some not
> – and I could not figure out why it works in some cases and in the
> others it does not.
>
> > Or is there any more tweak to the footnote format you'd like to see.
> > Say you are citing from
> > page 3 of this incollection item:
> >
> > @INCOLLECTION{Feltz2006a,
> > author = {Bernard Feltz},
> > title = {Self-Organization, selection and Emergence in the Theory of
> > Evolution},
> > booktitle = {Self-Organization and Emergence in Life Sciences},
> > pages = {341-360},
> > publisher = {Springer},
> > year = {2006},
> > editor = {Feltz, Bernard and Crommelinck, Marc and Goujon, Philippe},
> > }
> >
> > what exactly would like to see in your footnote?
> >
> > Do you want
> >
> > (1) Feltz, B. Self-Organization, selection and Emergence in the
> > Theory of
> > Evolution Self-Organization and Emergence in Life Sciences,
> > Springer, 2006,
> > 341-360, hier S. 3
> >
> > or
> >
> > (2) Feltz, B. Self-Organization, selection and Emergence in the
> > Theory of
> > Evolution Self-Organization and Emergence in Life Sciences,
> > Springer, 2006, S.
> > 3
>
> Both of these options would be fine, so option (1) is preferable with
> Wassenhoven style. But the problem is, that I do not get option (1) in
> every case. I used different references with the same style
> ("incollection") and entered the proper number for each in Lyx´s "text
> after"-dialogue. In some cases I get the "hier S. xxx" – which is fine
> for me – but in some other cases I just get the same as before I
> entered the pagenumber into the "text after"-field, so the "hier S.
> xxx" is missing. Why could that behaviour be different in the same
> document?
>
Hmm, that would seem to me to be either a bug in Wassenhoven biblatex style
or, perhaps more likely, a difference in behavior caused by the citations
occurring in different contexts (repeated citation, etc.)
Could you send me a minimal example including: a bib file, a lyx file and the
pdf file that your installation generates from the bib and lyx files? Feel
free to send them to e off-list if you so prefer.
Cheers,
S.
> > From a quick look at the documentation, the Wassenhoven style give
> > you the
> > option (1) as default. The doc says: "This behaviour can be
> > infuenced by the
> > option herename, which can take the values ‘true’ or ‘false’; the
> > standard
> > value is ‘true’." So set it to 'false' if you do not want the "hier"
> > word.
>
> I did not set this option, so I have the standard, which is "true".
> This is all I have entered in the preamble:
> \usepackage[natbib=true,style=authortitle-dw, style=footnote-dw]
> {biblatex}
>
> > I don't think you can get option (2) without customizing the
> > Wassenhoven
> > style, at least I did not see any option for that in the docs. It
> > seems to be
> > hardcoded. You may want to ask the author for an option, or get your
> > hands
> > dirty and try to modify the \DeclareBibliographyDriver{incollection}
> > macro of
> > one of the bbx file Wassenhoven provides (my guess would be
> > standard-dw.bbx,
> > but I am not very familiar with this style).
>
> I think that would be too difficult for me, and option (1) would be
> really fine…
>
> >> In the other case i did just the same: I entered the pagenumber of
> >> the
> >> quotation in the citation dialogue, also with the "incollection"-
> >> type.
> >> I can see no difference in what I did, but I get a different result:
> >> Here the pagenumbers of the whole article are displayed, and after
> >> that just the pagenumber, but without the "here…". So the result here
> >> is the same as if I would have put it into Lyx´s text-field directly.
> >
> > I am not sure what you are referring to here. Was this a different
> > reference?
> > The same reference cited a second time?
>
> Well, I mean, that in some cases – where in every instance I do the
> same by entering the proper number in the "text after"-field – the
> "hier…" is displayed, in others not. I don´t know why, as I don´t see
> that I did something diferrent. Even the style ("incollection") is the
> same. I hope this is understandable…
>
> Thank you, all the best*
> E
>
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