Re: LyX Memoir endnotes have form of footnotes

Thanks very much for the heads-up.  I've not run into the problem yet, but I
can see it looming ahead.

Regards,

Daron

On 8 Dec 2010, at 20:45, stefano franchi wrote:

> George, Daron,
>
> please note that memoir's \pagenote and \foottopagenote use in Lyx currently
> suffers from two   problems:
>
> 1. a 2-paragraphs (or more) pagenote produced with Lyx 's footnote command
> and \foottopagenote will fail and produce a Latex error. One paragraph notes
> are okay.
>
> 2. similarly, a pagenote produced with Lyx's footnote command and
> \foottopagenote cannot contain \index commands unless they are "protected"
> (you need to insert a \protect command as ERT **immediately before** the
> \index command).
>
> Lars Madsen, the maintainer of memoir, is working on both issues (the first
> one is trivial, apparently, the second one less so).
>
> You may follow up the details of the copnversation we have been having on
> computer.text.tex:
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Stefano
> On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 12:33 AM, george legge <gandmle...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thank you Darren. The first version works perfectly to give what I expect to
> see for endnotes.
> "\printpagenotes*".
> That allowed the endnotes to use the full width of text+notemargin.
>
> Incidentally, why the asterisk?
> With or without the asterisk, the notes get printed with their numbers. (and
> they won't appear in a T.O.C.).
>
> Thanks again -- you have been a great help.
>
> Cheers, George
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 1:00 AM, Daron Wilson <daron.wil...@gmail.com> wrote:
> George,
>
> The LyX endnote module uses the LaTeX endnote package, and so it would
> require some LaTeX hacking to change things much I think.  Memoir has its own
> commands to put notes at the end(it calls them pagenotes so as not to
> conflict with the endnotes package).  The memoir commands are not the same,
> but the class does provide all the same functionality, and a little more I
> believe.  I've been using memoir for  a short while, and so I have a little
> familiarity there, and I tried to hack something up from things I found
> before in the memoir manual.
>
> Caveats:
> *I'm new to the whole LaTeX thing, so it's probably pretty ugly, and the long
> way around, but it is working fine for me here (LyX 2.0 beta).
> *this will only work with the memoir class because it is built on
> class-specific commands.
>
> I wasn't sure exactly what result you wanted, but basically, what I've done
> is made memoir convert footnotes to endnotes, and hang the paragraphs off of
> the note numbers (I assume that is what you meant by "indented for all
> lines").  There are two possible options (available by
> commenting/uncommenting a few appropriate lines): either to hang the
> paragraphs of of a superscript without a space, or to hang the paragraphs off
> of normal text size numbers with a period and a space.
>
> You should be able to copy the code below straight into the preamble section
> of your document settings, and then the only thing you have to do is put the
> following into ERT in LyX at the end of each chapter:
>
> \clearpage
> \printpagenotes*
>
>
> The memoir package manual has a lot more detail on endnotes in section 17.4,
> and some helpful background in chapter 12.
>
> Regards,
>
> Daron
>
>
>
>
> =================================================
>
> %%%%%% Depends on memoir
> %       tell memoir to use endnotes
> \makepagenote
>
> %       use Lyx footnote apparatus, but have memoir convert to endnotes
> \foottopagenote
>
> %       setup memoir for notes at the end of chapters
> \renewcommand*{\notedivision}{\section*{\notesname}}
>
> %       prepare a new length for the width of the note numbers;  to be used
> later
> \newlength{\notenumberlength}
>
> %       tell memoir to hang the paragraphs from the width of the note numbers
> \renewcommand{\prenoteinnotes}{\par\noindent\hangindent\notenumberlength}
>
> %       add some space between notes
> \renewcommand{\postnoteinnotes}{\par\smallskip}
>
> %:====> use for hanging notes from normal text size numbers
>
> %       tell LaTeX to reserve note number space wide enough for the number
> 99. and a space, in normal font
> \settowidth{\notenumberlength}{\normalfont 99.\space}
>
> %       tell memoir to typeset the note numbers as flushright in their own box
> \renewcommand*{\notenuminnotes}[1]{\makebox[\notenumberlength][r]{#1.\space}}
>
>
>
> %:====> use for hanging the notes from superscript numbers.
> %       tell LaTeX to reserve enough space for 99 notes, superscript size
> %\settowidth{\notenumberlength}{\textsuperscript{99}}
>
> %       tell memoir to typeset the note numbers as flushright
> (rightjustified).
> %\renewcommand*{\notenuminnotes}[1]{\makebox[\notenumberlength][r]{\textsuperscript{#1}}}
>
> =================================================
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 7 Dec 2010, at 07:43, george legge wrote:
>
> > I am using Book-memoir and all the endnotes appear in the form of footnotes;
> > that is, each starts with a superscript number which is indented and
> > followed immediately by the endnote text.
> > If there are subsequent lines for that footnote, they are not indented.
> >
> > This happens whether I employ "insert footnote" and the module "foot to
> > end" or I employ the more recent Insert>Custom:Insets>Custom Endnote.
> > I am listing endnotes at the end of each chapter. They look very odd and
> > difficult to read in the form of footnotes.
> >
> > What is the simplest way to get the endnotes listed in the common way,
> > namely:
> > a normal Arabic number followed by the indented text (indented for all
> > lines)?
> >
> > Cheers, George
>
>
>