My Pi runs on battery, auto launches dlplus, and uses a 3inch touch screen,
Usage is as easy as turn it on, and shut off is *tap*tap*hit power switch*
:D   Super easy to use, and yes, it has much nerd cred, and yes it is
portable, but it's much much larger than an android phone. Gonna need a
cargo pocket to carry my RPi!  And setup was definitely not plug-and-play
simple. :P

One thing to watch out for with the Pi3 is the power draw.  Apparently,
that thing draws a lot more power than the previous models, so battery life
might not be as good.

I've got an old cheapy android phone (Moto E 2014) I'm going to have to try
out.  I tried out mcomm on my Nexus 6p, but didn't have much luck there.
Personally, I'd prefer it on my non-daily driver, anyway.


For Duane, I'd say for ease of use, go Android.  The RPi can be a super
easy solution, but only after someone sets it all up! :P

~Joe




On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 8:32 AM, VANDEN BOSSCHE JAN <
[email protected]> wrote:

> > between a pi and an android phone..  I pick android.
>
> "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right
> to say it."
> (E.B.Hall on Voltaire) ;-)
>
> > the Pi has some issues
> > 1) it has no safe on/off switch.  you can't simply power it down!
>
> True, but not a real problem. A simple script and a connection between 2
> pins will take care of that. I'm going to build that.
>
> > 2) it is not portable.  You will forever be tethered to a power source
>
> Yes, so what? I don't take my PDD with me either, and my headless
> DOS-station wasn't particularly portable either.
>
> > 3) linux.  You have to be linux savvy to use it. period.
>
> Not at all. Windows is the most-used OS of our time. All those people are
> Windows-savvy? If you can make it work, and it does what you want, the OS
> is irrelevant (speaking with 6 years of 1st-line PC-support in the fingers)
> The RasPi as a TPDD emulator has to do ONE thing. Once you get it working,
> you leave it be.
>
> On top of that: Android = Linux.
>
> > 4) needs a "non trivial' cable solution.
>
> USB to 9-pins-serial, 9-to-25 pin converter, null-modem cable (the last 2
> could be one piece) Yeah, kinda.
>
> > An android phone however... now that is convenient.
> > * fundamentally portable
>
> True. But I would definitely not want to use my daily phone as a TPDD
> replacement. For that, I want a dedicated peripheral.
>
> > * slick packaging, robust, durable, flexible etc.
>
> … and boring. Nothing is so uninteresting as an Android phone if you want
> to show it off. People will think your Model T is a keyboard to your phone.
>
> > * built in connectivity options
>
> Have you seen the specs on the RasPi3? BT, WiFi, 10/100 ethernet…
>
> > * needs a wireless cable (IE BT)
> > Kurt found a great BT serial module for ~25$
>
> Ah, I missed that. Could you please re-post?
>
> > A cheap android phone can be easily obtained...we've only built about a
> billion of those in this world.
>
> yes, but they only live about 18 months. (average) So watch out what you
> buy.
>
> > Anyhow both are neat options.
>
> U R Right. They are.
> But a RasPi will scream 'geek' more than a slick Android solution. Some
> people just like the attention. ;-D
>
> Anyway, there are definitively enough alternatives for a TPDD.
>
>
>
> *     |\      _,,,--,,_*
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>
> *   |,4-  ) )_    .;.(  `'-'*
>
> *  <---''(_/._)--'(_\_)*
>
> *Jan Vanden Bossche @ work*
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* M100 [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Stephen
> Adolph
> *Sent:* donderdag 31 maart 2016 13:42
> *To:* Model 100 Discussion
> *Subject:* Re: [M100] Could you use a USB portable flash drive as an
> alternative device to stores files on a Model 100 ?
>
>
>
> between a pi and an android phone..  I pick android.
>
> the Pi has some issues
>
> 1) it has no safe on/off switch.  you can't simply power it down!
>
> 2) it is not portable.  You will forever be tethered to a power source
>
> 3) linux.  You have to be linux savvy to use it. period.
>
> 4) needs a "non trivial' cable solution.
>
>
>
> An android phone however... now that is convenient.
>
> * fundamentally portable
>
> * slick packaging, robust, durable, flexible etc.
>
> * built in connectivity options
>
> * needs a wireless cable (IE BT)
>
> Kurt found a great BT serial module for ~25$
>
> A cheap android phone can be easily obtained...we've only built about a
> billion of those in this world.
>
> Anyhow both are neat options.  Both work.  Both leverage (1) large scale
> hardware manufacturing (2) large scale software development projects.  Both
> require talented people to do the custom work to bring it together as a
> storage solution for M100.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 4:39 AM, VANDEN BOSSCHE JAN <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> As far as I know, the answer is NO. It's not as simple as you hope it
> would be.
>
>
>
> Because you have to realise that the Model T's are, by today's standards,
> really primitive computers. There is not even a Disk Operatin System build
> in. The only thing that even resembles a DOS, is the communication with a
> TPDD. But even if it's dressed up as a disk system, it basically is a
> communications protocol over a serial port with another serial device.
> Actually, not like a common DOS at all.
>
>
>
> Integrating a disk - and of variable size - into that means that you have
> to translate the commands from the rudimentary communication protocol of
> the Model T towards file commands that apply to this  disk/ram device. No
> simple task if you have to do it all by yourself, i.e., if there is no
> underlying OS to wich you can pass commands to.
>
>
>
> I have the impression that a lot of people didn't understand what an
> engineering masterpiece NADSbox is/was. It translates the TPDD protocol and
> creates its own disk-access protocol towards an SD-card, so that this can
> even be read by other computers. Basically, he wrote a mini-DOS into a
> purpose-build computer. There are not many people in the world who could
> have done thàt, I think.
>
>
>
> On top of the software, there's the hardware. You need to get the signals
> from a serial port, through the translating process, towards an SD-card or
> a flashdrive. Again, that is not too simple, though there, luckily, you can
> use industry standard components. But you still need a skilled engineer -
> like Ken - to put it all together with the controller, the interpreting and
> translating software, to make a working unit.
>
>
>
> The NADSbox did all this, custom made. The price was steep,
> understandably, but it was still only the cost of the hardware, I don't
> think Ken made any profit from it.
>
>
>
> Basically, to be able to use any modern storage via a Model T, you need a
> computer in between to make it work.
>
>
>
> To avoid building the computing element from scratch, why not use one
> off-the-shelf ? And that's where the Raspberry Pi comes in. This computer
> is as powerfull as an iPhone. You have an operating system to handle disk
> operations, and you have USB and SD-card ports. The only thing you need now
> - and that's still easier said than done -  is a link to the serial port of
> the Model T, and the translating software. But because you are working in a
> real computer, the translating software can be an adaptation of software
> that already exists. Like LaddieAlpha.
>
>
>
> You see that, by using a Pi, you reduce software and hardware effort
> considerably.
>
>
>
> I am working on using an old Pi as a TPDD. Just like with my DOS station,
> I intend to write an article and post it to the Wiki.
>
>
>
> Everyone, feel free to correct any gibberish I might have mentioned above.
>
>
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> *   |,4-  ) )_    .;.(  `'-'*
>
> *  <---''(_/._)--'(_\_)*
>
> *Jan Vanden Bossche @ work*
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* M100 [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Duane
> Adrian
> *Sent:* woensdag 30 maart 2016 14:45
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* [M100] Could you use a USB portable flash drive as an
> alternative device to stores files on a Model 100 ?
>
>
>
> I was wondering if you could use any USB Flash drive to save files. Maybe
> have some software written for it so the Model 100 would understand it.
>
>
>
> I heard of the NADSBox and Raspberry Pi. But the NADSBox is expensive and
> I am not sure if it is available anymore.
>
>
>
> As for Raspberri Pi. It is $35 dollars. I have even seen one for $15. Even
> a CHEAP one for $5. But I am not a very technical person or software
> programmer or hardware engineer. I am just a basic user and owner of a TRS
> 80 Model 100.
>
>
>
> Any suggestions or opinions that I can get.
>
>
>
> Duane A.
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