Haha!  I almost mentioned tape!  I just received my cassette cable in the
mail the other day! :D


On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 10:44 AM, Howard Pepper <[email protected]> wrote:

> And would most definitely score max retro points ;)
>
> Howard
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>
> On 03/31/2016 08:03 AM, Marko Peussa wrote:
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>
> CCR-81 cassette drive:
> - portable, extra batteries available from any shop
> - storage cassettes available from shops and thrift stores
> - no need for linux or any software skills
> - user friendly interface, great for beginners
> - uses standard cassette drive cable, or alternatively a DIN adapter cable
> - Large size, not easily forgotten on the coffee shop table
>
> ;)
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> Stephen Adolph <[email protected]> kirjoitti 31.3.2016 kello 14.42:
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> between a pi and an android phone..  I pick android.
>
> the Pi has some issues
> 1) it has no safe on/off switch.  you can't simply power it down!
> 2) it is not portable.  You will forever be tethered to a power source
> 3) linux.  You have to be linux savvy to use it. period.
> 4) needs a "non trivial' cable solution.
>
> An android phone however... now that is convenient.
> * fundamentally portable
> * slick packaging, robust, durable, flexible etc.
> * built in connectivity options
> * needs a wireless cable (IE BT)
>
> Kurt found a great BT serial module for ~25$
> A cheap android phone can be easily obtained...we've only built about a
> billion of those in this world.
>
> Anyhow both are neat options.  Both work.  Both leverage (1) large scale
> hardware manufacturing (2) large scale software development projects.  Both
> require talented people to do the custom work to bring it together as a
> storage solution for M100.
>
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> On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 4:39 AM, VANDEN BOSSCHE JAN <
> <[email protected]>[email protected]> wrote:
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>> As far as I know, the answer is NO. It's not as simple as you hope it
>> would be.
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>>
>> Because you have to realise that the Model T's are, by today's standards,
>> really primitive computers. There is not even a Disk Operatin System build
>> in. The only thing that even resembles a DOS, is the communication with a
>> TPDD. But even if it's dressed up as a disk system, it basically is a
>> communications protocol over a serial port with another serial device.
>> Actually, not like a common DOS at all.
>>
>>
>>
>> Integrating a disk - and of variable size - into that means that you have
>> to translate the commands from the rudimentary communication protocol of
>> the Model T towards file commands that apply to this  disk/ram device. No
>> simple task if you have to do it all by yourself, i.e., if there is no
>> underlying OS to wich you can pass commands to.
>>
>>
>>
>> I have the impression that a lot of people didn't understand what an
>> engineering masterpiece NADSbox is/was. It translates the TPDD protocol and
>> creates its own disk-access protocol towards an SD-card, so that this can
>> even be read by other computers. Basically, he wrote a mini-DOS into a
>> purpose-build computer. There are not many people in the world who could
>> have done thàt, I think.
>>
>>
>>
>> On top of the software, there's the hardware. You need to get the signals
>> from a serial port, through the translating process, towards an SD-card or
>> a flashdrive. Again, that is not too simple, though there, luckily, you can
>> use industry standard components. But you still need a skilled engineer -
>> like Ken - to put it all together with the controller, the interpreting and
>> translating software, to make a working unit.
>>
>>
>>
>> The NADSbox did all this, custom made. The price was steep,
>> understandably, but it was still only the cost of the hardware, I don't
>> think Ken made any profit from it.
>>
>>
>>
>> Basically, to be able to use any modern storage via a Model T, you need a
>> computer in between to make it work.
>>
>>
>>
>> To avoid building the computing element from scratch, why not use one
>> off-the-shelf ? And that's where the Raspberry Pi comes in. This computer
>> is as powerfull as an iPhone. You have an operating system to handle disk
>> operations, and you have USB and SD-card ports. The only thing you need now
>> - and that's still easier said than done -  is a link to the serial port of
>> the Model T, and the translating software. But because you are working in a
>> real computer, the translating software can be an adaptation of software
>> that already exists. Like LaddieAlpha.
>>
>>
>>
>> You see that, by using a Pi, you reduce software and hardware effort
>> considerably.
>>
>>
>>
>> I am working on using an old Pi as a TPDD. Just like with my DOS station,
>> I intend to write an article and post it to the Wiki.
>>
>>
>>
>> Everyone, feel free to correct any gibberish I might have mentioned
>> above.
>>
>>
>>
>> *     |\      _,,,--,,_*
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>> *   |,4-  ) )_    .;.(  `'-'*
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>> *  <---''(_/._)--'(_\_)*
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>> *Jan Vanden Bossche @ work*
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>>
>> *From:* M100 [mailto: <[email protected]>
>> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Duane Adrian
>> *Sent:* woensdag 30 maart 2016 14:45
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* [M100] Could you use a USB portable flash drive as an
>> alternative device to stores files on a Model 100 ?
>>
>>
>>
>> I was wondering if you could use any USB Flash drive to save files. Maybe
>> have some software written for it so the Model 100 would understand it.
>>
>>
>>
>> I heard of the NADSBox and Raspberry Pi. But the NADSBox is expensive and
>> I am not sure if it is available anymore.
>>
>>
>>
>> As for Raspberri Pi. It is $35 dollars. I have even seen one for $15.
>> Even a CHEAP one for $5. But I am not a very technical person or software
>> programmer or hardware engineer. I am just a basic user and owner of a TRS
>> 80 Model 100.
>>
>>
>>
>> Any suggestions or opinions that I can get.
>>
>>
>>
>> Duane A.
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