Sorry; how is this any better than the M100ROM on Bitchin100?

You have to remove each M100s main board and unsolder the ROM socket? Aside 
from any considerations of 'keeping it original' that's not everyone's cup of 
tea, but if you really want to do that then of course you can do it with the 
M100ROM as well. 

On the other hand, the M100ROM is normally a plug-in solution not requiring any 
mods to the M100 at all; if you really need to reprogram the chip, an adapter 
is pretty simple, would probably not take much longer to make than unsoldering 
the M100's socket, and would work for as many (unmodified) M100s as you like.

You want to use an EEPROM? DIP 27C256s are dirt cheap and thick on the ground 
but I don't see why a compatible DIP EEPROM would be a problem.

And of course the M100ROM gives you the option of adding TS-DOS or any option 
ROM of your choice while you're at it for essentially the same cost and 
assembly time.

But to each his/her own I guess; maybe I'm a little biased but personally I'd 
rather spend 15 minutes or so making a one-time programming adapter (if I in 
fact ever need one) than removing the main boards in all my M100s and 
unsoldering and replacing the main ROM sockets...

m


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Brian White 
  To: Model 100 Discussion 
  Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 10:45 PM
  Subject: Re: [M100] Main rom using 28C256 plcc


  How many times do I have to write plcc in one mail? :)

  Physically it's all identical to the previous 27C256 plcc version.

  I am currently using the 27C256 version in 2 M100's already, so the physical 
fit is tested.

  Just to be clear, it requires desoldering the original dip socket and putting 
this adapter in it's place. And the adapter has a plcc socket on it.

  So in the end you have a socketed standard 28C256 instead of a socketed 
non-standard LH535618. And you can re-program the eprom without any special 
adapters or a test-clip, because the eprom itself comes out by itself.

  It's only for the early model 100's of course. Later ones you just use a 
27C256 DIP with no adapter.

  -- 
  bkw

  On Jun 1, 2016 10:10 PM, "Stephen Adolph" <[email protected]> wrote:

    Nice find. Ebay source or retail?
    Let us know if there is just enough space. Is the 28c256 a dil package? Or 
soic?

    On Wednesday, June 1, 2016, Brian White <[email protected]> wrote:
    > https://oshpark.com/shared_projects/bCqiBZLI
    >
    > This same guy had a 27C256 version, but erasable 27C256 lcc are really 
hard to find. You can buy OTP parts new, but not erasable.
    >
    > So he made a 28C256 version. You can still buy new 28C256 plcc.
    >
    > Maintaining a socket of some form is more important than I realised at 
first because I wasn't aware that eproms and eeproms might lose bits in as 
little as 10 years. So an eprom/eeprom absolutely will need to be re-flashed 
again sometime.
    >
    > I found these low profile round pin headers to use with it. You need both 
qualities, round pins and close spacing between the motherboard and the module.
    > http://www.king-cart.com/phoenixent/product_name=HWS5231
    >
    > Untested yet. I'm ordering now.
    >
    > --
    > bkw 

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