Ken, you have been a busy guy:) I didn't realize you were behind the
Virtual-T project. Is it possible to copy and paste code into it?
Also, would a TPDD work with it? If so, it would help me tremendously
with my WAV archiving project.
Thank You,
Jesus R
On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 10:36 AM, Jesus R <sonor...@gmail.com
<mailto:sonor...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Thanks for the advise everyone. I may need to look at one of these
options. My unit arrived today and is very nice. However, the disk
drive is giving me I/O error so something is up with it or the
cable:( I followed the club 100 manual, but no cigar.
I ordered the RAM from Gregory and looking forward to that.
JR
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1. Still active? (Adam Murray)
2. Re: Still active? (Lee Kelley)
3. Re: Still active? (John R. Hogerhuis)
4. Re: New Age Digital Storage Box (NADSBox) (Gregory McGill)
5. Re: New Age Digital Storage Box (NADSBox) (Kurt McCullum)
6. Re: New Age Digital Storage Box (NADSBox) (Brian White)
7. Re: New Age Digital Storage Box (NADSBox) (c646581)
8. Re: New Age Digital Storage Box (NADSBox) (Jeff Gonzales)
9. Re: New Age Digital Storage Box (NADSBox) (Kurt McCullum)
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2018 21:41:14 -0400
From: Adam Murray <vec...@trustbasic.com
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Hello. Just wondering what kind of activity this group sees
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Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2018 21:36:22 -0500
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Pretty active in a few different directions....
On Sun, Aug 19, 2018 at 8:41 PM Adam Murray
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> Hello. Just wondering what kind of activity this group sees
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>
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Mostly communication about new projects and questions /
answers for support
issues.
-- John.
On Sun, Aug 19, 2018, 6:41 PM Adam Murray
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I have the memory modules at arcadeshopper.com
<http://arcadeshopper.com> and also a android based
tpdd solution
Greg
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> Team, I know I'm late to the party, but I just purchased a
T100 and it
> should arrive soon:) I noticed the NADSBox has been
discontinued or out of
> stock. I'm happy to help to get more made and the proceeds
can all go to
> the club. Is there anyone to talk to about the design and
firmware?
>
> Also, anyone have an extra internal memory module for sale?
>
> Thank You,
>
> JR
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Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2018 11:12:48 -0700
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Even though NADSBox units are not available currently, there are
alternatives. LaddieAlpha runs on multiple platforms
(Windows/Linux/Raspberry Pi) and provides full TPDD support.
There are
two versions of mComm, one for Windows and one for Android.
The Android
version can be used on a smart phone or Android TV box. Both
versions
support TPDD, the Sardine dictionary, and a virtual modem.
There are
also older software options available such as DeskLink.
Plenty are ways of getting a TPDD emulator up and running even
if they
are not as elegant as a NADSBox.
Kurt
On Sat, Aug 18, 2018, at 12:12 PM, Jesus R wrote:
> Team, I know I'm late to the party, but I just purchased a
T100 and it
> should arrive soon:) I noticed the NADSBox has been
discontinued or
> out of stock. I'm happy to help to get more made and the
proceeds can
> all go to the club. Is there anyone to talk to about the
design and
> firmware?>
> Also, anyone have an extra internal memory module for sale?
>
> Thank You,
>
> JR
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Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2018 16:01:18 -0400
From: Brian White <bw.al...@gmail.com <mailto:bw.al...@gmail.com>>
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A tpdd emulated in low level basic hardware in line with the
tpdd itself
really appeals to me.
I would love to try to make it work on a tinyduino, or maybe a
gotek.
Tinyduino may not seem "basic" being so small and modern, but
it's a
microcontroller not a PC. It doesn't run linux and systemd and
bash and
getty and python and a tcp stack and ssl and X and gnome etc
etc etc.
The fact that an entire pc fits in a tiny space and uses no
power and costs
$5 today thanks to the plain advancement over the passage of
time, is sort
of beside the point. Sure it's practical, but it's not
*elegant*, in some
intangible abstract mental way.
You could run dlplus or laddie from an init script on an
Omega2 and stuff
the entire thing inside of a db25 connector shell, and
probably even
scavenge enough power right from the usb port with charge
pumps, and the
entire thing would be small and cheap and relatively easy to
do, since it's
just sticking a few existing things together like legos.
Outwardly this
makes all the sense in the world. But it's just such a
brute-force kind of
solution. I'd rather spend all kinds of time and effort to do
the same
thing with a controller in place of the computer.
Though, you can sure get a lot more functionality out of a
computer, like
that virtual modem in mcomm. And the computer is infinitely
more end-user
hackable. It would be neat to play with hacking together some
sort of
front-end dispatcher script, kind of like inetd for serial or
I guess that
would just be an amped-up getty, maybe even with an
interactive menu that
you can access via TELCOM, and the front end runs a tpdd
server or a dos
injector or ssh client or lynx or virtual modem or something
else and hooks
it to the tty. It could stay in the loop monitoring the tty
for special
escape commands to break out into a command mode just like
modems, telnet,
ssh, cu etc all do, so you could always switch between
functions from the
M100 even after starting one.
gahh ideas are sure easy to throw around :)
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Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2018 16:31:18 -0400
From: c646581 <c646...@gmail.com <mailto:c646...@gmail.com>>
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I have a project that uses an Arduino Mega to emulate a TPDD.
https://github.com/TangentDelta/SD2TPDD
<https://github.com/TangentDelta/SD2TPDD>
I have plans to eventually sell easy-to-use shields that
provide the RS232
level shifting and SD card interface.
On Mon, Aug 20, 2018, 16:02 Brian White <bw.al...@gmail.com
<mailto:bw.al...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> A tpdd emulated in low level basic hardware in line with the
tpdd itself
> really appeals to me.
>
> I would love to try to make it work on a tinyduino, or maybe
a gotek.
> Tinyduino may not seem "basic" being so small and modern,
but it's a
> microcontroller not a PC. It doesn't run linux and systemd
and bash and
> getty and python and a tcp stack and ssl and X and gnome etc
etc etc.
>
> The fact that an entire pc fits in a tiny space and uses no
power and
> costs $5 today thanks to the plain advancement over the
passage of time, is
> sort of beside the point. Sure it's practical, but it's not
*elegant*, in
> some intangible abstract mental way.
>
> You could run dlplus or laddie from an init script on an
Omega2 and stuff
> the entire thing inside of a db25 connector shell, and
probably even
> scavenge enough power right from the usb port with charge
pumps, and the
> entire thing would be small and cheap and relatively easy to
do, since it's
> just sticking a few existing things together like legos.
Outwardly this
> makes all the sense in the world. But it's just such a
brute-force kind of
> solution. I'd rather spend all kinds of time and effort to
do the same
> thing with a controller in place of the computer.
>
> Though, you can sure get a lot more functionality out of a
computer, like
> that virtual modem in mcomm. And the computer is infinitely
more end-user
> hackable. It would be neat to play with hacking together
some sort of
> front-end dispatcher script, kind of like inetd for serial
or I guess that
> would just be an amped-up getty, maybe even with an
interactive menu that
> you can access via TELCOM, and the front end runs a tpdd
server or a dos
> injector or ssh client or lynx or virtual modem or something
else and hooks
> it to the tty. It could stay in the loop monitoring the tty
for special
> escape commands to break out into a command mode just like
modems, telnet,
> ssh, cu etc all do, so you could always switch between
functions from the
> M100 even after starting one.
>
> gahh ideas are sure easy to throw around :)
>
>
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Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2018 16:34:07 -0400
From: Jeff Gonzales <gonzobra...@gmail.com
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at this point is the m100 just a keyboard/dumb terminal?
On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 4:31 PM, c646581 <c646...@gmail.com
<mailto:c646...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> I have a project that uses an Arduino Mega to emulate a TPDD.
>
> https://github.com/TangentDelta/SD2TPDD
<https://github.com/TangentDelta/SD2TPDD>
>
> I have plans to eventually sell easy-to-use shields that
provide the RS232
> level shifting and SD card interface.
>
> On Mon, Aug 20, 2018, 16:02 Brian White <bw.al...@gmail.com
<mailto:bw.al...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>> A tpdd emulated in low level basic hardware in line with
the tpdd itself
>> really appeals to me.
>>
>> I would love to try to make it work on a tinyduino, or
maybe a gotek.
>> Tinyduino may not seem "basic" being so small and modern,
but it's a
>> microcontroller not a PC. It doesn't run linux and systemd
and bash and
>> getty and python and a tcp stack and ssl and X and gnome
etc etc etc.
>>
>> The fact that an entire pc fits in a tiny space and uses no
power and
>> costs $5 today thanks to the plain advancement over the
passage of time, is
>> sort of beside the point. Sure it's practical, but it's not
*elegant*, in
>> some intangible abstract mental way.
>>
>> You could run dlplus or laddie from an init script on an
Omega2 and stuff
>> the entire thing inside of a db25 connector shell, and
probably even
>> scavenge enough power right from the usb port with charge
pumps, and the
>> entire thing would be small and cheap and relatively easy
to do, since it's
>> just sticking a few existing things together like legos.
Outwardly this
>> makes all the sense in the world. But it's just such a
brute-force kind of
>> solution. I'd rather spend all kinds of time and effort to
do the same
>> thing with a controller in place of the computer.
>>
>> Though, you can sure get a lot more functionality out of a
computer, like
>> that virtual modem in mcomm. And the computer is infinitely
more end-user
>> hackable. It would be neat to play with hacking together
some sort of
>> front-end dispatcher script, kind of like inetd for serial
or I guess that
>> would just be an amped-up getty, maybe even with an
interactive menu that
>> you can access via TELCOM, and the front end runs a tpdd
server or a dos
>> injector or ssh client or lynx or virtual modem or
something else and hooks
>> it to the tty. It could stay in the loop monitoring the tty
for special
>> escape commands to break out into a command mode just like
modems, telnet,
>> ssh, cu etc all do, so you could always switch between
functions from the
>> M100 even after starting one.
>>
>> gahh ideas are sure easy to throw around :)
>>
>>
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Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2018 13:38:24 -0700
From: Kurt McCullum <ku...@fastmail.com
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To: m100@lists.bitchin100.com <mailto:m100@lists.bitchin100.com>
Subject: Re: [M100] New Age Digital Storage Box (NADSBox)
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Not for loading and storing files. That requires a TPDD client
running
on the m100. But when you go to TELCOM to do anything, you are
basically
a vt52 terminal.
Kurt
On Mon, Aug 20, 2018, at 1:34 PM, Jeff Gonzales wrote:
> at this point is the m100 just a keyboard/dumb terminal?
>
> On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 4:31 PM, c646581 <c646...@gmail.com
<mailto:c646...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> I have a project that uses an Arduino Mega to emulate a TPDD.
>>
>> https://github.com/TangentDelta/SD2TPDD
<https://github.com/TangentDelta/SD2TPDD>
>>
>> I have plans to eventually sell easy-to-use shields that
provide the
>> RS232 level shifting and SD card interface.>>
>> On Mon, Aug 20, 2018, 16:02 Brian White <bw.al...@gmail.com
<mailto:bw.al...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> A tpdd emulated in low level basic hardware in line with
the tpdd
>>> itself really appeals to me.>>>
>>> I would love to try to make it work on a tinyduino, or maybe a
>>> gotek. Tinyduino may not seem "basic" being so small and
modern, but
>>> it's a microcontroller not a PC. It doesn't run linux and
systemd
>>> and bash and getty and python and a tcp stack and ssl and
X and
>>> gnome etc etc etc.>>> The fact that an entire pc fits in a
tiny space and uses no power
>>> and costs $5 today thanks to the plain advancement over
the passage
>>> of time, is sort of beside the point. Sure it's practical,
but it's
>>> not *elegant*, in some intangible abstract mental way.>>>
You could run dlplus or laddie from an init script on an
Omega2 and
>>> stuff the entire thing inside of a db25 connector shell, and
>>> probably even scavenge enough power right from the usb
port with
>>> charge pumps, and the entire thing would be small and
cheap and
>>> relatively easy to do, since it's just sticking a few existing
>>> things together like legos. Outwardly this makes all the
sense in
>>> the world. But it's just such a brute-force kind of
solution. I'd
>>> rather spend all kinds of time and effort to do the same
thing with
>>> a controller in place of the computer.>>>
>>> Though, you can sure get a lot more functionality out of a
computer,
>>> like that virtual modem in mcomm. And the computer is
infinitely
>>> more end-user hackable. It would be neat to play with hacking
>>> together some sort of front-end dispatcher script, kind of
like
>>> inetd for serial or I guess that would just be an amped-up
getty,
>>> maybe even with an interactive menu that you can access
via TELCOM,
>>> and the front end runs a tpdd server or a dos injector or
ssh client
>>> or lynx or virtual modem or something else and hooks it to
the tty.
>>> It could stay in the loop monitoring the tty for special
escape
>>> commands to break out into a command mode just like
modems, telnet,
>>> ssh, cu etc all do, so you could always switch between
functions
>>> from the M100 even after starting one.>>> gahh ideas are
sure easy to throw around :)
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