I did the full set of electrolytics, a total of 17 – C49, C50, C52, C54, C55, 
C75, C76, C77, C78, C82, C83, C84, C85, C86, C90, C92, C103.  (I know the 
majority of these have nothing to do with the power supply, it’s mostly meant 
to prevent future issues due to capacitor failure.)







        jim

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Subject: Re: [M100] low VEE voltage - help me?

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Which capacitors in particular did you replace?

On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 2:21 AM Jim Anderson 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hi,

My first M100 died on me about two years ago with a problem where the VEE 
supply voltage is low (between -1.4 and -1.7 volts, instead of the expected 
-5v).  At the time I posted here and the best guesses centered around one or 
more bad capacitors, particularly C85.  I did get around to removing C85 at the 
time and it did have a tiny amount of fuzzy crud on the bottom around the 
leads.  I put the whole thing aside and swapped in a motherboard from another 
parts machine.

Fast forward to this year, after continuously putting off ordering the 
capacitors from digikey, I finally ordered several capacitor replacement kits 
and nimh memory batteries from arcadeshopper and today sat down to re-cap this 
motherboard.  Well, it seems maybe I should have started with a different 
machine because all I've done is blow a few hours and frustrate myself.  I 
checked after replacing C85 and VEE was still only -1.7 volts, so I soldiered 
on in the vain hope that maybe another bad cap was at fault - replaced all the 
caps and sure enough it was still only -1.7 volts when I was done.  :(

VDD is correct (+4.97 volts) and the memory nimh is charging when power is 
connected (voltage at the battery rises).  I'm testing the motherboard without 
the lcd or keyboard connected as I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be able to 
make -5v on VEE without those components connected...

I'm not really familiar with expected diode test values, but to give you guys 
some additional info to go on (in case any of these are bad) I lifted one end 
on each of D13, D14, and D15 to test them, measured 0.22, 0.73, and 0.54 volts 
forward drop respectively and open circuit in reverse.  I don't know if those 
are appropriate values.  I also checked R97 and it is 180 ohms as expected.

Help!!!  I feel like I've been banging my head against the wall all evening.







        jim

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