Jerry, why are you not using LaddieAlpha? it is the most mature solution in my opinion, and it runs native on Windows 10? I use it a lot.
I would separate the "bootstrap" from the "usage". Bootstrap is pretty easy. I just transfer a text version of Teeny..BA. I don't bother with the injection aspect of Teeny.EXE on a PC at all anymore. ..Steve On Tue, May 4, 2021 at 9:20 AM Jerry Davis <[email protected]> wrote: > Justin, Georg, and Brian. Many thanks for your assistance on this. I'll > get the cable up to spec and verify physical layer is the way it's supposed > to be, try again, and report back. I'll also test with mComm as that > appears to be a better way to get the client installed. > > Thanks again! > > Jerry > > > On Tue, May 4, 2021, 7:45 AM Brian K. White <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On 5/4/21 7:20 AM, Justin Poirier wrote: >> > Just a quick reply, but when troubleshooting serial, I always start >> slow >> > and work my speed up. Don't start at 19.2k. Start at 300, and work your >> > way up. I've had mixed results across my Model 102/200 machines when I >> > go much past 2400. >> >> In general yes, but not for this. >> >> TEENY.EXE is hardcoded to run at the same speed as the TPDD which itself >> is hardwired to run at 19.2k. TEENY.EXE has it's own small delay between >> each character to dribble the bytes in slow enough even though the >> serial port is set to 19.2k, and,it uses a BASIC command to read the >> port raw without any screen updates. >> >> The most likely problem here is that TPDD requires more than just >> TX/RX/GND. >> >> At the very least, you also need DTR shorted to DSR on the 100 end of >> the cable. TPDD clients look at DTR. >> >> Ideally, you should really use a fully wired up cable according to this >> chart, or, just buy one of the cables linked on that page. Those are all >> specifically wired and actually purchased and tested cables specifically >> for use between a 100 and a modern pc, be that with a real serial port >> or a usb adapter. And, at the bottom are likewise some specifically >> selected usb-serial adapters, and a description of what makes them >> special.: >> http://tandy.wiki/Model_T_Serial_Cable >> >> Lastly, you have a much better option than TEENY.EXE to install TEENY or >> TS-DOS onto a 100 from a Windows10 machine these days. If your modern >> machine is Windows or Android, then you should try mComm: >> >> http://www.club100.org/memfiles/index.php?&direction=0&order=&directory=Kurt%20McCullum >> >> If your modern machine is linux or mac, then you should try dlplus >> https://github.com/bkw777/dlplus >> >> Those all have bootstrappers that can install TEENY or TS-DOS or even >> other things onto the 100. >> >> However TEENY.EXE does still work if you get a dos emulator set up right. >> >> Here is saved some notes about how to run dosbox (a dos emulator on >> linux) with the serial port config all specified right on the command >> line so no need to worry about config files. >> >> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/bkw777/dlplus/master/clients/teeny/notes.txt >> >> dosbox -c "serial1 directserial realport:ttyUSB0" . >> >> (note, that " ." on the end is a necessary part of the command) >> >> You just download the dlarc.exe into a directory, run that doxbox >> command, and from inside that dos window, the C: drive will be the >> current dir you started in, and you can run dlarc to extract itself and >> then run teeny.exe. >> >> Lastly... counter to what I said earlier, there IS actually a way to >> generate a special version of TEENY that doesn't care about DTR, but >> really, I don't recommend it. But, if you read the full teeny manual, >> it's in dlarc.exe but I have a copy here: >> >> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/bkw777/dlplus/master/clients/teeny/teenydoc.txt >> >> It does give directions for how to run TEENY.EXE with a couple extra >> commandline flags that will generate a modified version of TEENY on the >> 100. But really, it makes no sense to even bother with that. Just make >> or buy a correct serial cable rather than do that. Not only will it work >> better, but there is no such special version of TS-DOS, and you want >> TS-DOS more than TEENY usually. >> >> -- >> bkw >> >
