On 9/29/22 17:52, Tommy Phillips wrote:
A BASIC operating environment doesn't really meet the definition of "operating system".

It is literally, the operating system of that device. There is no particular set of features that defines "operating system". The literal and only definition of operating system is the system that operates the device.


But maybe I am being too pedantic. It wouldn't be the first time.

On 9/29/2022 2:29 PM, Peter Vollan wrote:
Huh? The Model 100 says "Copyr. 1983 Microsoft" when you go into basic. It is common knowledge that Bill wrote the OS himself.

On Thu, 29 Sept 2022 at 09:08, Tommy Phillips <[email protected]> wrote:

    ... and if I recall correctly, the Model 16 ran Xenix, thus being
    the only TRS-80 to run an O/S from Microsoft.

    This, of course, was years before Linux.


    On 9/29/2022 9:04 AM, Chris Trainor wrote:

    But still mostly a brand… the basis for the 80 was the Z80 in
their early stuff, but like the Model 16 had a 68k in it. 😊 Plus even tho the II had a Z80 like the I, III & IV, I thought
    operationally it was substantially different and none of the
    I/III/IV stuff would work on it? (never used one, remember my
    grandfather having one at work, but that’s it) .    Plus the 2 &
    12 were very similar, but the 16, meant to be an ‘upgrade’ from
    the 12 was way different (being 68k based like Apple/Amiga
    products, but not as ‘hip’ as those 😊 )

    --Chris

    *From:* M100 <[email protected]>
    <mailto:[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Justin
    Poirier
    *Sent:* Thursday, September 29, 2022 8:04 AM
    *To:* [email protected]
    *Subject:* Re: [M100] is the m100 a trs-80? In walks like a, not
    is categorized as a

    TRS-80 starts for "Tandy Radio Shack" and "Z80 microprocessor."
    The M100/T102/T200 have an Intel 80C51 microcontroller, not a
    Zilog Z80, like the Model I, II, III, IV had, and even worse the
    TRS-80 Color Computers have a Motorola 6809, so even in
    themselves, they were not consistent in sticking to their own brand.

    --Justin

    On Wed, 2022-09-28 at 17:09 -0400, [email protected] wrote:

        TRS80 is a brand.  There are substantial differences between
        the different models for the most part.  Especially ones like
        the Model II.  The 1, 3 and 4 had some limited compatibility
        but stuff written for one wouldn't necessarily work in the
        other.  (Except that in theory you could boot a 4 into 3 mode
        to run 3 apps, but that wasn't really 'compatible' ).   So
        the 100 and 102 (where brand changed to Tandy) are like the
        rest and different :).

        Oh and don't forget the whole color computer series was
        vastly different from the gray box models :)

        --Chris

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        *From:* M100 <[email protected]> on behalf of
        Will Senn <[email protected]>
        *Sent:* Wednesday, September 28, 2022, 5:04 PM
        *To:* [email protected] <[email protected]>
        *Subject:* [M100] is the m100 a trs-80? In walks like a, not
        is categorized as a

        I've been reading around a bit (all over the world actually)
        and there's a lot of stuff written about and for the
        TRS-80... as though it's a machine, not a designation. I
        wonder, just how close is an m100 to these TRS-80's (Model 1,
        2, 3, etc)? Should I concentrate on stuff that's written
        specifically about the M100? Or, will any old TRS-80 book or
        magazine or zine (TRS8BIT) do? It's pretty confusing.

        I do realize that there are significant differences in
        hardware and screen stuff - color, res, etc. But by and large
        is an m100 a "TRS-80" in that I can reuse code from one to
        the other comfortably (sans specific hardware references), or
        should I not waste my time?

        Looking for insight and reading material for M100 enthusiasts.

        Will


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