The ebay listing says they are 2.4GHZ. The HC-12 is 433mhz. I missed that initially because they look pretty much identical physically.

The HC-12 is supposedly transparent and can operate at the much lower baudrates. Most bluetooth modules can only go down to 9600 baud. You might recall from our other group discussions that I ended up making an ESP32 bluetooth serial relay for the Hero and RB5X because of the 7 bit data width and the lower baudrates. The old roving networks bluetooth modules supported 7 bits, but the firmware was later changed when Microchip bought RN and that support was dropped.

Others have used this HC-12 module with our robots.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVCrRt5IkiI


On 10/1/2025 6:07 PM, Dave Everett wrote:
Certainly more expensive, they used to be $11 each and they were rock solid. I will need to order a set of the ones from Amazon and give them a go.

Dave

On Wed, 1 Oct 2025 at 5:32 pm, Scott McDonnell <[email protected]> wrote:

    They look like expensive versions of the HC-12 modules.

    
https://www.amazon.com/433Mhz-Wireless-Replace-Bluetooth-Antenna/dp/B0C7M99BQM


    On 9/30/2025 9:08 PM, Dave Everett wrote:
    Check out the description for these:

    https://ebay.us/m/drkr36


    Dave

    On Wed, 1 Oct 2025 at 11:04, Scott McDonnell
    <[email protected]> wrote:

        1200 baud seems to be the most reliable. 9600 is possible,
        though.

        On 9/30/2025 8:50 PM, Dave Everett wrote:
        What was the max baud rate for the m100? I regularly use
        transceiver modules that do ttl rs-232. They run at 9600 but
        from memory that can be changed. I just don’t recall if it
        can go lower.

        Dave

        On Wed, 1 Oct 2025 at 08:50, Scott McDonnell
        <[email protected]> wrote:

            I plan to dedicate one of my Model 100s to use as a
            controller for my
            80s robots.

            These are my planned mods to implement this:

            1. Internal retro wifi modem (oldnet.com
            <http://oldnet.com>)

                  I plan to make hack onto the MC14412 chip. I have
            no plan to
            retain the original modem functionality, but if I did, I
            am thinking I
            could implement this via the modem enable signal. That
            would also allow
            me to control power to the ESP8266 so that it did not
            drain the battery
            when not in use. I could bring the enable line out to a
            switch to
            reconnect the enable line to the MC14412. At the moment,
            I can't really
            think of why I might ever want the original modem.

            I will use a Wemos D1 mini with an external antenna that
            I will attach
            to the M100 body.

            2. Complete my originally idea to port the TPDDuino
            project to the
            sparkfun openlog hardware and make this internal

                 Here, I am thinking the BCR TTL serial mod would be
            appropriate.
            This frees up the serial port which I will need for the
            robot control.
            Not sure if TSDOS already supports this, however. There
            could could be
            some benefits to the faster speed possible with the BCR
            hack.

            3. Wireless serial

                 For this, I have not decided whether to use
            bluetooth or an HC-12
            module. This will be in an external modules so that I
            can use the serial
            port for other purposes. I do plan to add a fused 5V
            output to pin 25 of
            the serial port. This was a common pin to use back in
            the day for adding
            a power output. It doesn't appear to be connected to
            ground in the M100
            per the schematics, but I will need to double-check.

            4. Joystick mod mentioned previously

                 If I will be using the BCR port for the TPPDuino,
            then I will end
            up implementing the ideas discussed in that thread for
            using the
            parallel port. But I also might just hack into the
            keyboard matrix
            arrows since this will be dedicated for this purpose.
            Still weighing
            this while I work on the other mods.

            -----------------------

            Interested in internal battery hacks. I have been
            thinking of installing
            a 7.2V nimh pack. I am not really sure it could fit
            anywhere inside, though.

            While looking through old magazines, I had seen products
            that were
            available at the time which were battery packs that also
            doubled as tilt
            stands. I liked the look of those and might end up 3-D
            printing
            something like that. There was a simpler project to use
            a PVC pipe with
            D cell batteries and the author fashioned that to also
            act as a tilt stand.

            For my first M100, I had modified a book light to attach
            to the BCR port
            to provide light for the LCD. I wasn't especially happy
            with it as the
            clear plastic bezel is too glossy and reflected too much
            of the light. I
            feel like if there were any possible enhancement here,
            it would need to
            be some sort of front light mounted internally. This is
            probably outside
            of how much effort I want to put into this.

            Interested in hearing about any experience and efforts
            into trying to
            improve the readability of the LCD.

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