Yeah, I am not aware of any modules that actually pass the handshaking beyond high-end industrial converters. That would likely need to be serial over wifi as the bluetooth serial protocol just doesn't have this built in. I also have a pair of those, but they are around $95 a piece and not small. You might be able to do it with ESP32s.

Thankfully I don't need handshaking for the robots. They only have TX and RX.

Scott

On 10/1/2025 6:23 PM, Stephen Adolph wrote:
I'll add a comment.
I would make sure the modules support hardware handshaking fornlocal flow control.

These Bluetooth dongles don't at all actually emulate a wire.  The flow of bytes is very different and you might find applications like tsdos suffer from timeouts and other problems arising from buffer overflows.

Another good feature would be to have the dongle obey software flow control.

Good luck.  I've played around with Bluetooth in the past with mixed results.  I wanted to have wireless connectivity to a nadsbox or online laddiealpha folder.  Never got it to work well.

Cheers
Steve



On Wednesday, October 1, 2025, Dave Everett <[email protected]> wrote:

    Certainly more expensive, they used to be $11 each and they were
    rock solid. I will need to order a set of the ones from Amazon and
    give them a go.

    Dave

    On Wed, 1 Oct 2025 at 5:32 pm, Scott McDonnell
    <[email protected]> wrote:

        They look like expensive versions of the HC-12 modules.

        
https://www.amazon.com/433Mhz-Wireless-Replace-Bluetooth-Antenna/dp/B0C7M99BQM
        
<https://www.amazon.com/433Mhz-Wireless-Replace-Bluetooth-Antenna/dp/B0C7M99BQM>


        On 9/30/2025 9:08 PM, Dave Everett wrote:
        Check out the description for these:

        https://ebay.us/m/drkr36


        Dave

        On Wed, 1 Oct 2025 at 11:04, Scott McDonnell
        <[email protected]> wrote:

            1200 baud seems to be the most reliable. 9600 is
            possible, though.

            On 9/30/2025 8:50 PM, Dave Everett wrote:
            What was the max baud rate for the m100? I regularly use
            transceiver modules that do ttl rs-232. They run at 9600
            but from memory that can be changed. I just don’t recall
            if it can go lower.

            Dave

            On Wed, 1 Oct 2025 at 08:50, Scott McDonnell
            <[email protected]> wrote:

                I plan to dedicate one of my Model 100s to use as a
                controller for my
                80s robots.

                These are my planned mods to implement this:

                1. Internal retro wifi modem (oldnet.com
                <http://oldnet.com>)

                      I plan to make hack onto the MC14412 chip. I
                have no plan to
                retain the original modem functionality, but if I
                did, I am thinking I
                could implement this via the modem enable signal.
                That would also allow
                me to control power to the ESP8266 so that it did
                not drain the battery
                when not in use. I could bring the enable line out
                to a switch to
                reconnect the enable line to the MC14412. At the
                moment, I can't really
                think of why I might ever want the original modem.

                I will use a Wemos D1 mini with an external antenna
                that I will attach
                to the M100 body.

                2. Complete my originally idea to port the TPDDuino
                project to the
                sparkfun openlog hardware and make this internal

                     Here, I am thinking the BCR TTL serial mod
                would be appropriate.
                This frees up the serial port which I will need for
                the robot control.
                Not sure if TSDOS already supports this, however.
                There could could be
                some benefits to the faster speed possible with the
                BCR hack.

                3. Wireless serial

                     For this, I have not decided whether to use
                bluetooth or an HC-12
                module. This will be in an external modules so that
                I can use the serial
                port for other purposes. I do plan to add a fused 5V
                output to pin 25 of
                the serial port. This was a common pin to use back
                in the day for adding
                a power output. It doesn't appear to be connected to
                ground in the M100
                per the schematics, but I will need to double-check.

                4. Joystick mod mentioned previously

                     If I will be using the BCR port for the
                TPPDuino, then I will end
                up implementing the ideas discussed in that thread
                for using the
                parallel port. But I also might just hack into the
                keyboard matrix
                arrows since this will be dedicated for this
                purpose. Still weighing
                this while I work on the other mods.

                -----------------------

                Interested in internal battery hacks. I have been
                thinking of installing
                a 7.2V nimh pack. I am not really sure it could fit
                anywhere inside, though.

                While looking through old magazines, I had seen
                products that were
                available at the time which were battery packs that
                also doubled as tilt
                stands. I liked the look of those and might end up
                3-D printing
                something like that. There was a simpler project to
                use a PVC pipe with
                D cell batteries and the author fashioned that to
                also act as a tilt stand.

                For my first M100, I had modified a book light to
                attach to the BCR port
                to provide light for the LCD. I wasn't especially
                happy with it as the
                clear plastic bezel is too glossy and reflected too
                much of the light. I
                feel like if there were any possible enhancement
                here, it would need to
                be some sort of front light mounted internally. This
                is probably outside
                of how much effort I want to put into this.

                Interested in hearing about any experience and
                efforts into trying to
                improve the readability of the LCD.

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